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Old 08-20-2004, 02:01 PM
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Re: A simple request

Who are creating the forums trolls? In the official forum???


Mary Whitehouse
Lostplay
Lucifersam

I don’t need evidence for Lucifersam…because he freely admits to making the users Cockinafrock, Clear ice and another troll to attack MGM.

For those who thinks he is a nice person…he called me a Pedophile, Floydpink/Nat a slut and a whore and told Old Hen to **** off plenty of times…Lostplay called Old Hen a ****…which I feel he should have been banned for.


….I apologise in advance for any grievances this may cause….but with the constant lies I’m faced with from those I accuse namely Lucifersam, Mary and Lostplay…..I feel I have to put the record straight.

I am a big Floyd fan with a barrage of interesting knowledge….and I would like to fight for this forum not against…and bring you more absorbing topics like Hotornot, Big Brother 5, Bo ‘selecta, Pink Floyd are the Greatest – fact!, Radiohead, Archive awareness, Floyd/Zep/Beatles/Queen/Stones – Best? And the forth coming Once upon a time in the west thread!!!!

I plead with the genuine users….give me time!!!!!

Firstly…Higgy claims I’ve accused more than the said 4, which I haven’t possibly in a bid to turn users against me….Higgy, Mary and Lostplay also claim I am a sick pervert/Paedophile for swapping harmless posts with Old Hen….funny nothing was said at Reakwon actually being physical lovers with Ringorocks even as young as 13.….but lets not dwell on that.

Their hatred at me is not only for being friends with Hen, are there reasons why Higgy, Mary and Lostplay hate me chatting with Old Hen, keep their user names hidden and refuse to post pictures of themselves????

It’s mostly at the fact I uncovered their agenda.

• Where do I begin?...Well, Lostplay admits to being x, xx and xxx…and Lossplay….a user he created then blamed on me!!!!! – He actually openly apologised for it too!!! – How damning is that?????
* Also Mary Whitehouse claimed Lostplay was x, xx and xxx
• Higgy, Dog of War and Mary have all been seen to claim Lostplay is a troll.
• Asyakvit was a decent user until 3000 posts, she claimed she was leaving then...she didn't and trolled after that...until her dialogue matched Lostplay's nearly word for word...bleat bleat bleat etc...I asked Asyakvit if she was infact Lostplay, also I asked Asyakvit/Lostplay if Asyakvit had given Lostplay her password upon leaving...Asyakvit said yes...Lostplay never denied it.
• Lostplay has always been in favour of a free forum…no mods! He has been regularly seen to post…
• Lostplay as always defended CWB, saying he’s mixed up or leave him alone it’s what makes him happy…
• Lostplay DW’s clone? Methinks so!!!
• *Both Lostplay and Troll ‘Double X’ call me a paedophile....both spell it Pedophile
• Lostplay gave Old Hen a link to picture of two young naked children.
• Though Higgy is a recent realization, I've watched Mary Whitehouse and Lostplay's forum habits for a while now...and all too often one of them logs out and a troll logs in....or vice versa....this has been going on since I joined 6 months ago....
• Higgy and Lostplay have claimed they are the trolls and have an agenda, but this was in satire….often a sign of guilt….make light of a bad situation ect…
• They like bad situations ….but not this one.
• DW, Mary and Higgy freely admit Lostplay has a history of SHIT STIRRING.....even in other forums....very consistent with troll behaviour.
• A dead giveaway in a lot of Lostplay’s possible trolls is the lack of grammer….as seen in x ect, everyone knows Lostplays incoherent posts and threads are full of spelling mistakes…so Lostplay does well to say/type little.
• Higgy has always said in posts during fierce troll debates that I Gilly or Clear eyes am not a troll…and I thank him for that….and thanks Foesad for your honesty.
• Higgy says I am a wanker etc for posting in my own topics, but claims Federo is Floyd art in the making for very much the same, but only worse methinks.
• Higgy also said many a time openly and frequently ‘ignore the trolls’…that until I accused him of backing trolls….thereafter Higgy stated I am in fact a troll…..and did Higgy subsequently ignore me?
• Hell no.
• Double standards?
• Hell yes!!!!
• Can Higgy’s word be trusted?
• Hell no!!!!
• When I asked Higgy if he backed the trolls he blatantly refused to answer me.
• Higgy says the troll has been here since day one….so I checked the member list, and saw that both Mary Whitehouse and Higgy himself fitted the bill.
• Later he changed his thoughts to being together at a previous forum…..that still fits in with their gang mentality….the same users were all there.
• Remember the NUMBER 9 effort…..claimed to be something else but was aimed at myself…the biggest indication of this was NUMBER 9 starter Lostplay replying to numerous amounts of my posts with a solitary NUMBER 9…most members of the accused Troll creating gang sported a NUMBER 9 signature
• This was around the time Lostplay also began his Tic tok crusade against me….also seen in his signature.
• Lostplay asked many members to join the NUMBER 9 crew….many were asked at some point save me.
• Remember Lostplay’s previous Agent smith gang????? – A group he asked me to join at a time when Lostplay and I were friends.
• Brian said he may track the trolls or something similar to find out who they are….Lostplay was involved in the thread straight away….I asked Lostplay if he backed Brian in this…and Lostplay said in reply he backed no one….A worried man?
• Have you noticed Mary and Lostplay are nearly always the first to respond to a troll related topic…but why when they are all for an un-moderated forum where everyone is free to post what they desire???
• They say no mods….but always take up a mod stance…. - see motives
• Lucifersam claims GQ to be a troll creator….but I have little to go on to really mention him…though GQ was instrumental in the NUMBER 9 campaign against me.
• Speaking of Gang mentality…when I was in disagreement with my now friend DW Mary and Lostplay sent me numerous PM’s telling me how to deal with DW…which I ignored and thereafter made a truce with the madcap DW
• Mary and Lostplay have claimed me to be a troll or troll creator (I’m not sure which they mean) for a while now…but the main troll Mary thought I was (Mountain Goat Matt or MGM to some) came in to the forum at the same time as I….I said look how can we both be in at the same time….Mary claimed he knew a way how it was done…hhmmm? Something to do with opening up different windows…everyone knows I’m pretty poor on a PC.
• One of the big factors for me was when troll Sassam….made a thread called….IN A PM LUCIFERSAM TOLD ME HE WAS BUT****ED BY HIS…I guessed Mary would be one of
the first to respond to the thread as usually and surprise surprise he was…..

MOTIVES

• That’s what these troll creators do….they like the forum don’t get me wrong, this is evident by the fact none of the trolls spam the Floyd chat section…..what they do is troll the everything else section then log back in as say Mary Whitehouse for example and make everything OK again….either by attacking the troll..(As soon as the troll as gone) defending the troll’s actions if it’s x ect…or claiming the troll is someone else…..
• Mary, Higgy and Lostplay think if they can create enough havoc as trolls then sort out the problems as themselves, admin may make them mods.
• ….now my above point about stepping in straight away is seemingly valid.

Further Analysis

• Can admin see their ISP’s though? Are they admins buddies anyway?
• Who knows Higgy says it’s someone with access to many PC’s office or Student for example.
• But returning to Sassam’s thread…I knew Mary was involved…it was Mary’s text/dialogue….I’m so familiar with it that it hurts…..so when Mary came in to the forum whilst I was their to blame me for his work…I threatened him to re-title the thread…..and 18 minutes after he did.
• No trolls in the Floyd chat?
• A troll making amends?
• A troll with a conscience?
• I don’t think this forum has pure trolls hell-bent on creating chaos!!!
• Only regular posters with an agenda and cowardly ways of attacking those they despise.
• It’s funny that the 3 main users I claim to be making trolls say I’m the troll….go figure.
• I’m only online 2 hours 30 a day….Floydpink and Old Hen can testify to that!
• So if they are wrong what does this mean???
• Jealous of my looks, confidence, ability to make interesting threads….argumentative skills???
• I think so….I have attacked in the past for being attacked….but only Strobe and DW really.
• Mary Whitehouse always uses intolerable language when he often attacks or insults genuine users like my self or even Strobe….his expletives get progressively worse as an argument or heated debate goes on, until the point the dialogue which he employs is explicitly consistent with trolls such as MGM.
• They say Higgy is too nice, “I’ve known him ages,” – Old Hippie. His recent attacking posts prove he’s just an offensive forum member at heart, who is capable of being an offensive troll.
• After I made this thread Higgy was really nice to me again, complementing my art and telling me in PM’s that I didn’t need anyone’s backing anymore. I think he felt cornered at the overwhelming evidence. Especially with Mary claiming he was going to ignore it all and Lostplay shying away from defending his actions. But Higgy changed after Lostplay made a thread calling out for allies, for users who are against Clear eyes or Clear eyes’ opinions. Seems Higgy feels there is safety in numbers…he abandoned his farcical truce and went back to his flaming ways….you just watch, the next time Lostplay claims a truce Higgy will be there at my doorstep with flowers.
• Gang mentality!!! – They even refer to themselves as the 3 Amigos now!!!!
• Lostplay often says I was given to him by Higgy as a project…A project that failed.
• Higgy provided closure by saying it was true.
• During the time I was Lostplay’s “Project” he would often ask me to join “us” – possibly the agent Smith gang??? I never joined and shortly after we fell out over the user Floydpink. Just as they show hatred at me for being friends with Old Hen….. NOTE: 2 FEMALE USERS.
• Lostplay used to tell us to bring back our favourite threads which were on page 7 because one would be deleted for every new topic created, some did bring them back, but mostly Lostplay would do the honours…..after a while Lostplay stopped doing this. Shortly after a users called x, xx and xxx started doing it…..users that Lostplay claimed to be!!!!! – Most threads revived being volatile ones.
• He likes a forum war does Bruce (Lostplay) and he is always the first to plead a truce!!!! Or the first to back out.
* …….Until the next conflict he usually has a hand in starting and or fuelling! Warmonger!
• On Sunday 27th June Higgy, Lostplay and Mary Whitehouse relentlessly attacked me, saying I’m a paedophile etc, from the time I was on to the time I was off namely 6-8pm, the next day Monday 28th June at a similar time, those 3 members were nowhere to be seen, but two trolls Po and Double X seemed to carry on Higgy, Lostplay and Mary’s attack, calling me a “Pedophile” Double X spells Paedophile incorrectly, the same way Lostplay spells it….Po’s dialogue sat perfectly with Mary’s, Po even knew about the agenda/motive of the troll creators, saying he trolled hoping for an Emi Admin job….both trolls ultimately had a yank text.
• The next day Tuesday 29th of June between 5-7pm Po and Double X were nowhere to be seen, but Higgy, Lostplay and Mary Whitehouse were back and worse than ever with their perpetual attacks at me…this time avoiding their Pedophile debacle.
• You see the trolls know us well….they aren’t opportunist idiots hell bent on causing distain in the forum for their own sick pleasures, they target users they know…Po knew the argument against me and the one against him well, and knew Hen’s forte for chicken rape!
• Lostplay, Higgy and Mary all make the mistake of logging in straight after their troll work.
• Higgy says he was on the phone to Wormbrain on the 28th, well that explains why there was only 2 trolls carrying out Lostplay, Higgy and Mary's argument/attacks.
• Higgy said he only supports Floydettes and Floyd lovers like Federo….well for starters Federo makes some good threads but then kills them with spam….albeit Floyd related spam….but a post saying Over the wall to the dark side of the moon gets a little tiresome after being written a 100 times or the DSOM description copied and pasted over and over again (Remember the troll called Pink Floyd who posted a topic about trolls??)……and how many words can describe the greatest band of all time????
• I believe Higgy to be Federo….Higgy has always stood by Federo and defended him or his actions…plus Higgy knew I was having a slight dig at Federo in threads Higgy never made a post in….yes maybe Federo informed Higgy in a PM about me…..but Federo warning me to stay the **** out of his threads in a badly spelt PM….followed by Federo logging out and Higgy logging in giving me a similarly poorly spelt PM straight after.
• I notice much watching users log out then trolls logging in.
• They always nod to my previous banning in this forum and the other forum APFFN…but those bans had little to do with trolling….only the certain dislike by a mod in both occasions…though who was on mod duty in this forum we’ll never know…though Lostplay claims it was he.
• Higgy says I was banned in all my Floyds forums….not true….Pink Floyd online welcomed me with open arms and saw off those who followed me from the APPFN.
• I've only ever been banned for arguing!!!!
• Mary and co also claimed after I was banned here that my mates (Rugbykev) girlfriend (Nikee) who came here trying to find out why I was banned was actually me!!!!! – Lately he accused my brother of being me!!!!!
• They all gave Nikkee a hard time for no other reason than hate…of Gill….and some other users which I found distressing.
• Seems Mary gives women a hard time more often than not…..he’s been aggressive to a lot of girls on the forum – Though that points to homosexuality, hence his user name.
• Strobe, Hen, Nikee??? All faced the wrath of big man Mary!
• I couldn’t get back in to the site because I didn’t know how to…..in the end I was told by the person who actually requested my banning in the APFFN (whom I am friends with now) that I needed to delete my cookies.
• The users I claim to make trolls rarely post their pics if not at all…
• Only GQ was convincing.
• Eddy2000 posted a pic in hotornot….but shortly after he changed it….but then changed it back….the photos were both heavily modified/disguised/altered/manipulated…you take your pick….I remembered the brief pic and shortly after a troll actually used that pic for his signature!!!!!! – I made a thread about this and other users forming habits of making other user names for varied purposes.
• Shortly after I was banned…..hmm
• Eddy2000 now claims both pics were actually of Josh Homme.
• And he and the troll using them were coincidental.
• During the troll debates/wars a few week ago….Lostplay, Higgy and Mary Whitehouse posted frequently at around 6 – 8pm whilst I’m logged in, but the night after during Lostplays truce that we all abode by, save Higgy who sent me a PM saying I have no truce with you, Higgy, Lostplay and Mary Whitehouse made no posts……16th of June…if you don’t believe me.
• But the trolls that I claim them to be made numerous posts in that time….
• When these 3 mostly Lostplay and Mary are fighting the trolls are always ****ing quiet…..
• Higgy says one minute I claim him to be Federo and the next I don’t….Higgy mate I’ve never gone back on the fact I know you are Federo….
• So stop bullshitting please.
• You claim Floydpink can see through me Higgy….hmm….you say that whilst she’s not here…
• You also say the same for Susie…I’d like to hear her response.
• Higgy you claim I am a player who doesn't understand or have any knowledge of Pink Floyd (lol!!! ) and you claim I am here for the girls...you made a bold statement asking all the ladies to come forth and tell everyone about the pestering PM's I've sent them.....come on girls how often do I send you lustful PM's?????

• You claim I say Lucifersam is a troll….I’d like to see that post liar.
• Same for Old Hippie, Moonchild, Wormbrain and Dog of War…..you say I claim them to be trolls….where and when was I supposed to have claimed this….
• Higgy you are a liar and a disgrace to Pink Floyd and this forum.

Gilly’s final thought


Who is telling the truth you decide…………


The Ringing of the Division Bell has begun……..