Progressive rock

What do u think about this musical genre? 'In the court of the Crimson King' is pretty cool imao, but i was rather disappointed by 'Selling England by the pound' (Genesis), while 'Foxtrot' is not bad. Now i'm going to listen 'Close to the edge' and 'Relayer' by Yes, then i guess i'll buy something else by Genesis ('The lamb lies down on Broadway' for example) and by KC. What do you think of these works? Any suggestion for other progressive groups/albums...?

what exactly makes a band a progressive rock band?

I sure that everyone is sick of me advertising Queensryche and their conceptual album Operation: Mindcrime(1988). But that's prog-metal, so I highly recommend Promised Land(1994), which is 100% original progressive rock.

Otherwise, I don't like any other 70's prog besides Floyd.

The progressive music station on my digital cable package advertises itself as "singer/songwriter" and plays stuff like Jewel and the Indigo Girls.

yeah i have heard that station and it is definitely not progressive rock.

How could I forget about Rush!?!?!

Yes, I think they are good example of prog for the person who asked what prog is. So that is two sweet 70's prog bands i like.

yeah, i know what some prog bands are: Pink Floyd, Rush, King Krimson. i just dont know what it is that makes them "progressive" becuz they all have their own unique sound.

Prog Rock is basically Rock that doesnt follow the standard format of verse-chrous-verse-chorus-solo-chorus. The music "progresses" with different parts.

Some classic Prog Rock albums are:
Yes-Fragile
Dream Theater-Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Rush-Farewell To Kings, Hemispheres, 2112, Permanent Waves

Dream Theater is basically the best young Prog Rock band around, and Six degrees of Inner Turbulence is a master piece, featuring a 42 minute title track.

**** Forgot to reitterate (sp?) what Madcap said, Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime is another awesome Prog-rock album, though I havent heard Promised Land, i hear it is great as well.

So even the first PF have some of a progressive band...? (AHM, echoes, maybe ASoS too...)

Oh yes, very, much more progressive than the Wall or Final Cut

uh, let's not forget Styx... The Grand Illusion is a great prog-rock album, IMHO.

i think porcupine tree is better than dream theater though dream theater is ok. a little too hard for my tastes and the singer is gay and in the dvd the keyboardist looks like kenny g.

also spock's beard and flower kings are good.

...Definition?

"Progressive rock and art rock are two almost interchangeable terms describing a mostly British attempt to elevate rock music to new levels of artistic credibility. The differences between prog-rock and art rock are often slight in practice, but do exist. Prog-rock tends to be more traditionally melodic (even when multi-sectioned compositions replace normal song structures), more literary (poetry or sci-fi/fantasy novels), and more oriented toward classically trained instrumental technique (with the exception of Pink Floyd). Art rock is more likely to have experimental or avant-garde influences, placing novel sonic texture above prog-rock's symphonic ambitions. Both styles are intrinsically album-based, taking advantage of the format's capacity for longer, more complex compositions and extended instrumental explorations. In fact, many prog bands were fond of crafting concept albums that made unified statements, usually telling an epic story or tackling a grand overarching theme. In addition to pushing rock's technical and compositional boundaries, prog-rock was also arguably the first arena where synthesizers and electronic textures became indispensable parts of a rock ensemble. The earliest rumblings of progressive and art rock could be heard in the poetry of Bob Dylan and conceptually unified albums like the Mothers of Invention's Freak Out! and the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, all of which suggested that rock was more than just teenagers' music and should be taken seriously as an art form. Prog-rock began to emerge out of the British psychedelic scene in 1967, specifically a strain of classical/symphonic rock led by the Nice, Procol Harum, and the Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed). King Crimson's 1969 debut In the Court of the Crimson King firmly established the concept of progressive rock, and a quirky, eclectic scene was taking shape in Canterbury, led by the jazzy psychedelia of the Soft Machine. Prog-rock became a commercial force in the early '70s, with Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis, and Pink Floyd leading the way. Meanwhile, a more avant-garde scene (dubbed Kraut-rock) was developing in Germany, and eccentric, unclassifiable bands continued to emerge in the U.K. By the mid-'70s, a backlash was beginning to set in; prog-rock sometimes mistook bombast for majesty, and its far-reaching ambition and concern with artistic legitimacy could make for overblown, pretentious music. Its heyday soon came to an end with the advent of punk, which explicitly repudiated prog's excesses and aimed to return rock & roll to its immediate, visceral roots. Still, prog-rock didn't completely go away. A number of AOR bands used prog ideas in more concise songs; plus, Pink Floyd, Yes, and Genesis all had number one singles in the '80s by retooling their approaches. A small cult of neo-prog bands catered to faithful audiences who still liked grandiose concepts and flashy technique; the first was Marillion, and many more popped up in the late '80s and early '90s."

(From allmusic.com)

...Moody Blues....there's someone I haven't listened to in a while. Something about Lodge's voice...(or is it Hayward's?)...and the profundity they at least strive for.

Crumbs! Reads like some boffin's thesis - and wasn't too generous with it's references to Pink Floyd.

It seemed to completely ignore Syd's and Pink's success at displaying, I guess since they weren't technically trained instrumentalists, their "avant-garde influences." And seems to suggest that PF didn't really get going until the 70's.

Suspiciously US-oriented to my ear, but what the hell do I know?

p.s. Excellent first post, Dramatic Name. Hearty PF fanatic welcome!