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I can't see why someone can think of TDB as the worst PF album. It was my second album just after PULSE. I think it was a major step in the right direction from MLOR. I love the "new" sound on it, and some of it is a bit like U2 yes, but a really like their music aswell. The only song I don't like is Keep Talking, can't see why anybody could even think about putting it on Echoes
I don't think the lyrics is any bad at all, it's much better than TFC and some of the early albums (not Syd stuff though, love does). It took some time before Roger got some real good lyrics, and Dave hasn't wrote as many has him yet. AMLOR is worst when it comes to lyrics, so he is moving the right way. And this is the first album where they are really working together (Nick, Dave and Rick) in a many many years. I'm not very old so I wasn't aroud in the 70's so that may be why I'm more into the newest albums.

Yes, and it may also go some way in explaining your rather contentious statement about TDB being better than "some of the early albums" about which I am sure you MUST be joking.

You're a fan and entitled to prefer anything over anything else. That entitlement, however, doesn't mean that you are right though.

Floyd on!
Byron

Allright it was not very smart saying that TDB was better than some of the early albums without saying wich one. I think that Ummagumma(studio), More and and AHM is worse than TDB. Even some of the songs on ASOS is not among my favourits. But Meddle is in my opinion maybe the best overall album of PF, so I don't hate that period, it's just not my favourit.
(But have started listing to those albums almost every day lately, need something to listen to during exam reading )

I cant believe im reading this!! TDB is better then AHM and ASOS?
AHM is one of their best albums

mason barely participated in making the album! read the credits... gilmour brought some new members suck as Bob Ezrin, carin, samson and many more.
it was barely a PF album, more like gilmour album.
like TFC was waters album
TDB is gilmour's album!

I would think of TDB as more an PF album than both AMLOR and TFC, and to some extent The Wall(ass I'm sure will get some of you out of the chair). On both The Wall and TDB have there been used people from out side the band to co-wright the music. I see the The Wall as a totally Waters solo album were Nick and Dave had nothing to say and Rick was not part of that proses at all. But they needed the money as fast as possible, and none the others had any songs ready. The reason why I see TDB as more of a band album is as Gilmour said in an interview in 95 " What was really nice
about the recording was that myself and Rick, and
Nick came together and worked well as a unit in a way
that we hadn't done for many, many years. " It's true that Gilmour and Polly Samson wrote most of it, but for the first time since the 70's they really worked as a band in the studio, and they had a great time doing so.
And as Gilmour also said in the same interview, he felt that the album was a joint effort.

about the wall, waters wrote most of it on his own but many songs from it (i think the leading songs) were co written:
the trial - ezrin, waters
comfortably numb, run like hell, and Young Lust were written by gilmour and waters.
in TDB it was ezrin, carin, smason, moore, laid-clowes.
acctualy i think everything exept marooned and comong back to life. so its really NOT a pink floyd album.
infact, more song were written by non~pink floyd artist then wright and mason (gilmour doesnt count, he was the leader - im talking about the other floydians).

You're obviously talking BS because if TDB isn't a Floyd album I don't understand why you consider a Floyd album TFC. Personally I don't care who writes lyrics, Gilmour, Waters, Polly Samson or Tony Blair. It's simply irrelevant. I guess that Atom Heart Mother isn't a Floyd song because it was LARGELY co-written by Ron Geesin! TDB music is 99% by Gilmour and Wright so it IS Pink Floyd. To say it is a Gilmour solo album is ridicolous, maybe you never listend to a Gilmour's album otherwise you should notice the difference! You can like it or not, that's your personal taste after all, but it IS Pink Floyd. And it's better than many other Floyd albums.

Easy there, yannis, mate. I know you're mad, and we all know you LOVE the Floyd, but differing opinions, for that's all this bulletin board malarky really is, are bound to arise and arouse some heated feelings.

You just have to take it lightly, as you may find your opinions at great odds with those of others here. I just might be one of them, on this occasion, but it's no big thing. The toll of the bell.

Oh but I DID take it lightly, just forgotten some smilies here and there! As I already remarked, here and elsewhere, it's matter of personal taste... and that's my whole point!!!

Whoa. I believe I understand your point, f-and-e, it was indeed Water's concept. But Dave had a hell of a lot of input, musically. As Com-pink pointed out, Another Brick 2, Mother, Young Lust, Comf Numb, and Run Like Hell---aren't those the songs you always first think of and want to hear when you think of The Wall? Without Dave, those songs and most of the others would have sounded entirely different; I would dare say that without Gilmour, "The Wall" would have about the same impact on the music scene that "Pros and Cons" has had.

first of all im sorry if i have afended u, i overreacted a bit, it is a floyd album, but that doesnt change the fact that many other writers wrote this album, on AHM only one helped them ( im not sure that he even helped them to write the songs).
about the wall,
i totaly agree with u, stratman.
it woudn't have so much impact with out gilmour!

What I said may have come out wrong. Gilmour did have something to do with the music, but it still was a Waters concept. And you are right when it comes to wich songs I think of when someone says The Wall and it is indeed those Gilmour co-wrote. But what I tried to say was that they weren't working aswell together as I would have liked, and that much of the "fun" they had playing during the 60's and early 70's was gone. A lot of that was back when they recorded TDB, and they seemed more relaxed and more comfortable with their positions in the band than in years. That is way a see it as more of an "band" album. It's hard to explain, and I see your point when you say that it's a Gilmour album comfrtably pink. And I now that a lot of the songs were written by people from outside the band. And I think that is ok, since IMO Gilmour is not as good as Roger when it comes to lyrics;.....yet. But he might be.

I was sure that was the point you were driving at, f-and-e. Thanks for expanding upon it. It all makes perfect sense.