Is Rock Dead? Sub-question: Is it better to burn out than to fade away?

I didn't vote on this one cause I can't really form an opinion. But I have to point out 2 things:
-If Destiny's child are gonna exist for 10 years, their succes will probably remain in history ( )
-Dylan and Clapton are not bands ( )


Da_Floyd_Fan in the flesh again.

I don't vote but I'm giving you two points:

- Rock (and good music) is not dead. Not yet. But radio stations and record companies are killing it. This is for sure.

- Great artists should play, sing and compose as long as they have fun. For a real artist music is life. I have a great respect for mature artists who *love* to be on stage. There's always something you can appreciate, something different from young revolutions, obviously... But that's life.

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"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." Tom Waits

I couldn't vote here either, but here are my points.

1. Like Mad Yannis said, rock is not dead. But the corporations and radio stations are indeed killing it, if not the musicians and bands themselves.
I don't like how I seem to see that more attention is paid to bands of the past then bands of today. You know why? Because rock music these days has nothing original. I see people like Marilyn Manson, who is a conglomerate of a lot of different things: David Bowie, Alice Cooper, Trent Reznor (of Nine Inch Nails), Skinny Puppy... and the list goes on. I really don't like that. And what about Oasis? They actually admit stealing from the Beatles. And I'm sure there's more bands that I can't think of, who do the same thing.
So, let's admit it, too many bands with influence are carping too much from rock's original past. I look around, and I only see maybe a few original bands: System of a Down, and Rage Against The Machine (who broke up... that really sucks).
Isn't it sad that, back in the '60s and '70s, that so much original music came out in so little time... yet,now, in the same amount of time, all the current rock scene has done is milk the best from that period.
So I can see where the radio stations are coming from when they broadcast classic rock. Because people are still doing that stuff today, and most people (including myself) would rather listen to the older stuff, warts and all, then listen to the best of that era being polished up and sold off as original today.
What rock music needs is, first, some new ideas. And then, it needs to kick itself in the ass and think of some new ways to express new ideas.
And, only then, will rock music be exciting again.

I've had these dark moments of believing that rock was dead but just as I've thought thee's no possible hope left then something happens to rekindle the flame. I agree that radio stations and record labels are killing off the music by trying to determine for us what we will enjoy listening to without letting some of the music just be put out there. Rock is not dead - it's just badly wounded. Just my two cents..

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..and your point is?

wow, and a delayed two cents at that. two months nearly to the minute after the last post. But, your input is always valued.

Yeah, i know what you mean by pessimism. had a spell of it when i created this thread. i don't know, sometimes i find things that i like that are current, but nothing quite compares to the oldies.

My point has been, and seems to be forgotten sometimes, that there have always been horrible bands, or artists, we just forget about them as time goes on. So eventually, you will forget about Poison, Live, Fuel, etc, and only remember the best of the past 15 years or so.


By the way, rock is dead, but it will soon be replaced by something better.

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stchrissie is not me.

True. The main problem is I can remember almost nothing from *new* artists in the last 15 years. I mean, there are good things but *great*? Maybe it's just me, OK, but I didn't notice a huge number of new great artists in this period of time.

What's the best of 70s? Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Queen, Stones, Lennon and the list could go on...

What's the best of 90s? Oasis? Blur? Radiohead? Red Hot Chili Peppers? Ok *some* of these are good but IMO they don't match the former list.

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"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." Tom Waits

that's for sure.

I suppose there will always be those who don't like the music of present day, but seems to me like there really isn't anything original or worth listening to out there. The time period in the 60's to 70's seemed to be like a real Renaissance for rock and roll. The singles that I do like I'm sure I'll recollect in a few years time, but still, the music I'm truly passionate about (PF, Queen, Who, Beatles, etc, etc) will last - to me - forever. And they certainly have stood the test of time, I mean, most of my favourites are either thirty years old or dead. The thing I was getting at was that artists are constantly being replaced and no one can tell one from the other.

I certainly hope something better comes along, but I don't think anything can replace that era of music.

I'm sure that's what they said about Mozart.

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stchrissie is not me.

well, he's still around today isn't he? his music, anyway.

Who?

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is snuggly

No, that's a good thing.

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Taking away from you for the greater good. (The Audacity of Socialism).

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery".-- Winston Churchill

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, C.A.I.R.)

I think it was a bad thing. They were something original.

I personally think that rock is not dead; just in a slumber. As mentioned earlier, it is being controlled by the media and because of that, the growing up kids who listen to it, ONLY listen to the new music, not knowing anything from the 60's or 70's. But if things are going at this rate, it will die eventually. Maybe it's just me, but i noticed that the new generation (in general) is a lot ...hmm, how should i put it? Dumber. Of course, thats not speaking for all the teens, for there are a lot of bright and intellegant ones with a great taste in music (a lot of them are on this board). I have proof of this: shows like "Tom Green", a show of an a guy making a fool of himself. The man is perfectly sane, but the things he does are so vile and disgusting, it makes you wanna vomit; but the kids seem to love his show. Why? Go figure. A lot of teens fail to notice the repetition in todays bands. And the new style of music that recently came out, the "beats"; no different than a monkey beating a drum with a stick, but seems to be very popular with the young kids today. And so forth...
If this keeps up, rock is bound to die, even in the withered away state that it is in now.



<<What's the best of 70s? Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Queen, Stones, Lennon and the list could go on...

What's the best of 90s? Oasis? Blur? Radiohead? Red Hot Chili Peppers? Ok *some* of these are good but IMO they don't match the former list.>>
Oh and another thing, does any one remember any great singers during the 20's? 30's maybe? Well, im sure the lists from those decades wont match anywhere near even the list of the 90's. Maybe this is a transition phase to something greater... or a downward spiral into stupidity and eternal darkness.


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