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View Poll Results: Have u ever took drugs?
ive never took drugs 43 36.75%
yes, i have 74 63.25%
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Old 05-30-2002, 09:41 PM
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

I see that currently the users outnumber the non-users in the poll.

I just wanted to say to any teenagers reading this thread, please don't be swayed into experimenting with drugs because of the anecdotal accounts given here by those who favor their use. Please keep in mind the fact that there is a very real chance you'll screw up your life if you get involved with drugs. Not only physiologically, but they are illegal in most places, and you don't want to run afoul of the law.

I'm not a prude, I'm actually in favor of legalizing at least MJ, cause the "war on drugs" is a total failure, and we need to adopt a different paradigm to solve problems associated with illegal drug use.

Teenagers, just THIMK first!!!
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

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You're being a little hard on Syd. He has some amazing thoughts about this so called life we are living. He is not a vegetable!

SYD IS NO MORE WRONG THAN THE REST OF US! You may be happier than Syd but it does not make your life more meaningful. Syd has touched the hearts of many.

Sure, Syd pumped out a few zany and memorable songs while under the influence of LSD.. but look at the terrible price he paid. His fans have paid a terrible price too. Has anyone out there ever considered "what might have been" had Syd not found LSD? There might have been dozens of landmark albums that we would all be gushing over, the way we do with DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, etc... Remember what tepid songs Roger, Dave & Rick wrote and performed in their early efforts? Well, Syd was miles ahead of them. See how great Roger, Dave & Rick became as they matured? Think about it.
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

I'd also like to remind people of natural alternatives, such as meditation, lucid dreaming, and natural highs (from exercise, playing music, or any hobby you truly love). Since this is where my experience lies, I'd like to say that although it's more work sometimes to train your mind, the results are worth it and also without danger (unless your hobby is rock-climbing or something similar! ).

I'll tell you what...once you pull off your first lucid dream, you won't ever feel a need to try acid!
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Hey FloydWright:
Do you think you mind explaining what lucid dreaming is? I've heard of it a couple times.

(BTW, if the answer is too long, just PM me.)
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Old 05-30-2002, 10:29 PM
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

Lucid dreaming is a technique where you learn to become aware of the fact that you are dreaming. Sometimes, you can set up the dream you want as you go to sleep, and sometimes you can even control the dream as it happens!

It can take awhile to master, and different people use different techniques to do it such as meditation (my choice), even devices that flash when you enter REM sleep (which would wake me up, personally).

But the results are worth it, and (though I don't know what an acid trip is like) just as good as--if not even better than--any acid trip!
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Wow, FloydWright, that sounds really cool.
How would I go about starting to master that? Or even get a handle on it?
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Shane--unfortunately, I do not know how to explain it to you. Though some people consciously learn it, for me it was something I had been doing for a long time that I only realised later had a name.

You might be able to find a book or some sites on the Internet that could help, or maybe someone else on this forum would know where to begin.
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Ah...
Thanks anyway, FloydWright!

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Re: drugs, yes or no?

the best thing i can do is wake myself up if it is not a pleasant dream.
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

Whereas there are no guarantees about ending a bad trip or an overdose.

To Shane--I'm very sorry I couldn't help you more.
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

Aye, lucid dreams sound like they kick ass.

And BTW, I wasn't trying to come down on Syd, I think he's cool as hell just as everyone else here does, I'm sure. I was just saying that he went off the deep end from drugs...My brother's stupid, not crazy.
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When you get it to work--definitely. I've experienced the most beautiful things, in a few really good lucid dreams I had.

And Icarus, I understand exactly what you mean about Mr. Barrett--I never thought you were slamming him. BTW...Icarus would be a good metaphor for him...flew too close to the sun. Though, thank goodness, he did NOT die.
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Sure, Syd pumped out a few zany and memorable songs while under the influence of LSD.. but look at the terrible price he paid. His fans have paid a terrible price too. Has anyone out there ever considered "what might have been" had Syd not found LSD? There might have been dozens of landmark albums that we would all be gushing over, the way we do with DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, etc... Remember what tepid songs Roger, Dave & Rick wrote and performed in their early efforts? Well, Syd was miles ahead of them. See how great Roger, Dave & Rick became as they matured? Think about it.


Let me just say I don't think anyone needs LSD or any drug. "What might have been" had syd NOT taken any lsd? By all acounts, Syds' songwriting came out in a flurry after the acid. It was a huge influence on him. As well as John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix and the whole scene back than. The prozac generation will never be as creative! The legal drugs really numb your brain and the quacks are putting the KIDS on that junk daily! Children have a reason to be depressed. Particularly the poverty stricken ones who have little hope of a bright future. These legal drugs are not going to help a valid depression. Accepting the truth about your situation will help you sleep at night a hell of alot better than Ambien(legal sleep aide). Syd had other problems, as David Gilmour, Waters and others have stated. We all have problems but some of us have bigger ones than others. Gilmour has said things in print about Syds' family life. Syd was always different. Fame can do things to you that are weirder than LSD. Look at Michael Jackson. Kids don't need drugs but if they like Pink Floyd they can know the truth about drug use.
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Re: drugs, yes or no?

I'll tell you something--I could've been put on Ritalin.

Personally, I think the study of self-discipline is more effective and has more benefits in the long run. At least, it has been for me.

I think that internal peace IS a very, very valuable thing indeed.
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Yeah, I could see the similarity in Syd and my name thing...

Sarah, never said you were on drugs. *Religious figure ommited* bless your soul.
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