The "What Ever Happened To...?" thread.

[Melo]

Originally Posted by stchrissie

There are subtle clues in Uday Bhanu's sig if your clever enough to find them.

[stratman]

Originally Posted by Melo

Dt, of course I know about the Id address, but no one said that both are the same ID, and as you said here one day, ID adress don't prove exactly that 2 same ID's are the same person. I'm not defending Uday or TC and I'm not sure 100% that both aren't the same person, but it's very strange one person had 2 different types of writing, talking style, posted different personal pictures, etc etc.

About Uday's Sig, how can he change his sig if he is banned?

I figured Uday might have been a friend, family member or business associate who used TC's computer.

[DeathTöngue]

Originally Posted by Melo

Dt, of course I know about the Id address, but no one said that both are the same ID, and as you said here one day, ID adress don't prove exactly that 2 same ID's are the same person. I'm not defending Uday or TC and I'm not sure 100% that both aren't the same person, but it's very strange one person had 2 different types of writing, talking style, posted different personal pictures, etc etc.

About Uday's Sig, how can he change his sig if he is banned?

I'm answering this, btw, because I'm not involved - I've never banned UB/TC/et alia, not that I wouldn't. I do admit to sending one of the mods a twelve-pack of micro-brews for getting rid of one particularly painful example of TC's text formatting a couple years ago.

Well, a bunch of points. First, I'm not going to tell anybody another member's IP, nor will I confirm identities. I'm not going to discuss the contents of PM's I get from members publicly, nor am I going to share what discussions the moderators have with regard to any member. We don't ban anyone without telling them why, although, if like one person, you've used your daddy's email address to register, you may find him asking about it - that's happened.

This is to respect your privacy, not because we are hiding anything.

Second, protecting your account is your responsibility. If you share a machine, and someone starts trolling under your name, we're still going to ban the account. "A troll by any other name, etc."

Same goes if it's different accounts, but the same machine. We'll block the machine. At one point, I'm pretty sure that about a third of Texas couldn't reach this site because of two users with clue-impairment.

For this reason, I don't actually care whether UB and TC are the same person or not - I'm not going to let them back on the board until I have reason to believe he/she/they/it are done with their bullshit, and history says no.

Third, there's a process, if you don't like what the mods are doing. I don't mind answering questions, but if you don't like my answers, complain to the Piper - he is the one and only person who can overturn a mod decision, and he has done so in the past. Moderators have been replaced, and it can be done again.

And fourth... It would be nice, however unlikely, to be able to do this job without the immediate assumption that we've gone power-mad every time we have to take some unpleasant action. Moderating is not fun, it is dry damn tedious work, and there is no pleasure in banning people or having to settle disputes. Or any of the other dozen things we do.

[fixxlevy]

'Obliquity', huh?

[Deranged]

[DeathTöngue]

Originally Posted by fixxlevy

'Obliquity', huh?

Respectfully intended. Plus, it was fun to say out loud.

[Melo]

Originally Posted by DeathTöngue

I'm answering this, btw, because I'm not involved - I've never banned UB/TC/et alia, not that I wouldn't. I do admit to sending one of the mods a twelve-pack of micro-brews for getting rid of one particularly painful example of TC's text formatting a couple years ago.

Well, a bunch of points. First, I'm not going to tell anybody another member's IP, nor will I confirm identities. I'm not going to discuss the contents of PM's I get from members publicly, nor am I going to share what discussions the moderators have with regard to any member. We don't ban anyone without telling them why, although, if like one person, you've used your daddy's email address to register, you may find him asking about it - that's happened.

This is to respect your privacy, not because we are hiding anything.

Second, protecting your account is your responsibility. If you share a machine, and someone starts trolling under your name, we're still going to ban the account. "A troll by any other name, etc."

Same goes if it's different accounts, but the same machine. We'll block the machine. At one point, I'm pretty sure that about a third of Texas couldn't reach this site because of two users with clue-impairment.

For this reason, I don't actually care whether UB and TC are the same person or not - I'm not going to let them back on the board until I have reason to believe he/she/they/it are done with their bullshit, and history says no.

Third, there's a process, if you don't like what the mods are doing. I don't mind answering questions, but if you don't like my answers, complain to the Piper - he is the one and only person who can overturn a mod decision, and he has done so in the past. Moderators have been replaced, and it can be done again.

And fourth... It would be nice, however unlikely, to be able to do this job without the immediate assumption that we've gone power-mad every time we have to take some unpleasant action. Moderating is not fun, it is dry damn tedious work, and there is no pleasure in banning people or having to settle disputes. Or any of the other dozen things we do.

I think you misunderstood me. I never never never said anything about the mod's job!
Uday was banned not because he was TC, and vice versa! There were reasons to ban them, I'm not talking if the bans were right or not. I'm wondering if they are the same person, and in my opinion they aren't.

I'm talking about this member to member, not directly to any moderator, just talking, then, I don't understand why did you mention Piper!

[Hove]

Originally Posted by DeathTöngue

...if you don't like my answers, complain to the Piper...

What ever happened to The Piper?

[DeathTöngue]

Originally Posted by Melo

I think you misunderstood me. I never never never said anything about the mod's job!

No, you didn't. I apologize if you feel like I was jumping on you, which I may have been.

Uday was banned not because he was TC, and vice versa! There were reasons to ban them, I'm not talking if the bans were right or not. I'm wondering if they are the same person, and in my opinion they aren't.

That's absolutely correct, too. TC/UB have had a number of other personas, as well - and there's some significant differences between most of their posting styles. Not that it matters, as I pointed out before.

In any case, I haven't researched they/he/she/it, and I trust the judgment of the other mods who did look into the matter.

I'm talking about this member to member, not directly to any moderator, just talking, then, I don't understand why did you mention Piper!

Because, if there is a problem, it ends up being his problem anyway. I'll also admit I'd prefer people to PM a mod or mods before posting about things like this. For one thing, nobody else will have all the facts, and for another, you'll most likely get your questions answered without an unnecessary public controversy.

That all said, I'm not warning you or some such - feel free to talk about it all you like. I'm just pointing out it isn't very productive.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by DeathTöngue

And fourth... It would be nice, however unlikely, to be able to do this job without the immediate assumption that we've gone power-mad every time we have to take some unpleasant action. Moderating is not fun, it is dry damn tedious work, and there is no pleasure in banning people or having to settle disputes. Or any of the other dozen things we do.

COULD NOT agree more!

I moderate over at www.allnurses.com. It's over 150,000 members and believe me, the 20 odd staff that we are have a constant uphill battle against people who think they are 6 years old and are in a sandbox at a playground.

Carry out your job and no less than 3 will instantly accuse you of "power tripping". Like I have nothing better to do


It's one of the big reasons I've never wanted to moderate here (or on any other foum). Moderating one forum alone is tedious work - I don't want to take on more than I can chew. It wouldn't be fair to me, the site or the site membership concerned.

[Melo]

Originally Posted by DeathTöngue

No, you didn't. I apologize if you feel like I was jumping on you, which I may have been.

Ah, all right, now I'm fine!

Because, if there is a problem, it ends up being his problem anyway. I'll also admit I'd prefer people to PM a mod or mods before posting about things like this. For one thing, nobody else will have all the facts, and for another, you'll most likely get your questions answered without an unnecessary public controversy.

That all said, I'm not warning you or some such - feel free to talk about it all you like. I'm just pointing out it isn't very productive.

I think you didn't get my point Rob, there is no problem and controversy! Which things are you talking about?

[Melo]

Originally Posted by DeathTöngue

And fourth... It would be nice, however unlikely, to be able to do this job without the immediate assumption that we've gone power-mad every time we have to take some unpleasant action. Moderating is not fun, it is dry damn tedious work, and there is no pleasure in banning people or having to settle disputes. Or any of the other dozen things we do.

Like Simon, I'm completely agreed with you. I know by my own experience that is not an easy job!

[AnimalInTheWall]

Originally Posted by Simon

I moderate over at www.allnurses.com

Sounds hot.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by AnimalInTheWall

Sounds hot.

Hey, if you ever wanted a quick "pulse" of what it means to live, breathe and work nursing from around the world - stop in and take a look!

I'm proud to say that we do a fantastic job in representing all it means and all that it takes to be a nurse in today's world Heck, that's why we are over 175,000 members (and growing!)

[AnimalInTheWall]

I had a slightly different idea of what allnurses.com was about.

Blonde hair, stockings, etc.

Talk about a quick pulse.