Piper vs. ASoS

That actually has a term... Out Of Phase Stereo (or OOPS).

did... you... say... "intertellar overdrive sucks"? ... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Personally, Interstellar Overdrive is one of the reasons i prefer Piper. Saucerful is a solid enough album, but it's inconsistant, and too experimental at times. For me, Piper has no bad points, every song is strong, even the weaker songs, like Take Up Thy Stethoscope... are superb.

Songs like the title track on Saucerful, and later, Sysyphus on Ummagumma, while they are great songs, i find them quite stressful to listen to, and i rarely sit through the hole of saucerful, unless it's the live version.

That said, saucerful does have some great songs, like Set the Controls, Corporal Clegg, Remember a Day, Let the be More Light, etc. But the title track lets it down, in my view.

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ditto

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I think I prefer live Saucerful as opposed to the recording, too. Especially from, of course, Pompeii. I don't know, I think I like the Celestial Voices vocal a bit better. But nonetheless, songs like Corporal Clegg, Let There Be More Light and Remember A Day are superb songs.

yeah the studio version pales in comparison to any live version of ASoS. has anyone ever heard the early version "the massed gadgets of hercules"? its pretty good. its pretty much the same but shorter but during the celestial voices part there is a great mellotron part. its great.

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Honestly, Piper is the better album specifically because of fellowship and experience playing with each other as well as the situation. Piper was released as Pink Floyd became immensely popular around England (mostly London clubs and schools and dance halls) and Floyd's success was accredited to the styles of mixing loud amplification, sound effects, colors, and lights. ASoS was released after Syd Barrett had left the band and a replacement, David Gilmour (working for 7 pounds a week when he joined the band), was introduced to Floyd. Gilmour was quote, "rather rusty," when he joined the band, and he had to deal with the worries of commercial failure and the loss of management (management left with Syd Barrett). The style of Pink Floyd dramatically changed with the change of the line-up and the band was completely unsure of their future.
Also on a note of a nostalgic historian, a lot of people's favoritism of these two albums primarily depended on which side people took, Syd or David. Personally, since David Gilmour and Syd Barrett are great friends (Gilmour even engineered Syd's solo-debut in 70), I honestly enjoy both of them very much. And since the original music of Piper was so strong in its already matured foundation, I have to believe Piper is the greater of the two works.

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-David "Fred" Gilmour

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Syd Barrett learned the guitar from David Gilmour at school. I almost forgot to say that. While Gilmour admits that he isn't claiming full influence on the young lad at the time, he said that some of his stuff is definately Gilmour's.

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"Music is the rhythm of the soul. If you can't feel something that you listen to, then it isn't music."
-Jordan M.

"When I'm standing there I'm conscious of trying to give the most I can, and I don't need clean hair for that."
-David "Fred" Gilmour

"MTV sucks!"

i don't know about that.

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Yes, I said interstellar overdrive sucks. Sorry. I don't mean to be critical of the good taste of my fellow board members, but it must be known: I *hate* Interstellar Overdrive. I must admit, I'm a bit hesitant to go into detail about my reasons for disliking one of The Floyd's earliest "classics", mostly because I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to music. I'm afraid if I start to ramble on about how I think IO is just an aimless, tedious jam, some musical expert will come charging in and describe its genius in loving detail, and I will be left speechless. As it is, I can barely tell different instruments apart while listening to music. I don't want to have to slug it out with a music expert who's been playing guitar since he/she was five.

The rest of Piper is quite good, though. I really like Matilda Mother, Lucifer Sam, Flaming, The Gnome, Scarecrow, Pow R. Toc H., and yes, even Take up thy Stethoscope and Walk. Chapter 24, Bike, and Astronomy Domine are also pretty good, though not quite spectacular IMO.

I don't know. Saucer just sounds better to my ears. With the glowing exception of Matilda Mother, their is nothing on Piper that grabs me in quite the same way as Remember a Day, Let There be More Light, Jugband Blues, or Corporal Clegg. Who knows, maybe I just have bad taste.

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i know how you feel, War, and I understand perfectly.

Though I'm no musical genius, I do know that in very rare cases does someone have bad taste (I usually say such just to bust the person's chops...or if they like Nelly. j/k) As I see it, if you like the albums Saucerful or Piper as a whole (though not particular songs) you can't have all that bad taste in music - that's more than a lot of people can say.

i think everything on piper is better than corporal clegg.

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i don't know, I rather fancy Corporal Clegg

TDoW, you just have your own taste! You are entitled to your opinion even if you are not a musical expert, obviously! Even if I think IO is a great track I agree with you when you say you prefer Saucerful. They are two great albums but IMO Saucerful is superior. First and foremost because of the title track which is an awesome piece of music.

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I agree. Maybe it isn't the best production ever but that song has a strange appeal, like all of that album IMO.

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