Followup to "question about Piper"

Honestly, most newly remastered CDs will have some batch of defective clones. And about the sound quality of the music, I believe that the quality (seeing that the music is over three decades old) will suffer from any electronic upgrading. And another thing I discovered about Piper is that the sound will be awkward to you when playing it because it was most likely produced for Quadrophonic sound (four-corner stereos), so the sound will be awkward with the engineered effects. Good luck with your piper cd though, I got mine from burning it off a friend's copy, sounds fine to me

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I just listened to Chapter 24, and didn't hear anything distorted.

And I don't think Piper was meant for quadrophonic systems. Quad was unthought of (in the home-stereo market) in 1967. I believe that PF invented quad, when they made their first Azimuth Coordinator... which was in 1967.

actually, I believe that The Who invented Quadraphonic sound with Quadrophenia. and I meant the sound was originally meant for their concerts
thats why when you listen to it with a quadraphonic sound system now the sounds circles you in the speakers.

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-Jordan M.

"When I'm standing there I'm conscious of trying to give the most I can, and I don't need clean hair for that."
-David "Fred" Gilmour

"MTV sucks!"

Both of these guys are writing in error.

You've got a defective copy.

Cheers,

Mark

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If you don't mind me asking, fixxy, how am I in error?

"I believe that PF invented quad"...

I don't think that that's correct.

But I was being glib more than anything else.

Cheers,

Mark

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"You've got a defective copy."

Really? What are the odds of getting two defective CD's that both happen to be defective in the exact same way? Neither have scrathes and both were bought brand new from a major retail store.

Lucifersamradio mentioned that I might have gotten two copies from a defective "batch." How do I make sure that I don't get a CD from a defective "batch"? Do I just keep buying pipers untill I get a decent copy? Sorry, I don't have the time or money for that.

This may sound like a misguided assumption, but I believe if everybody were to sit down and carefully listen to their pipers at a reasonably loud volume, they would notice some distortion on The Gnome and Chapter 24. I happen to have a reputation for being picky about the sound quality of my music. Stuff that wouldn't bother most bothers me a great deal. If everybody would just sit down and actually *listen* to the music, I'm sure at least *something* would be noticed. Now, I'm not actually suggesting that somebody sit down and do this for my sake. I'm sure everybody has much better things to do with their time than look for flaws in the music they love. I'm just trying to get across that it is simply unlikely that I have defective copies. I've listened to multiple, mint, *new* CD's on multiple sound systems several times over. They sound identical in every way.

There's still something else I can try. I will log onto Kazaa and see if I can download some Chapter 24's. If there is at least one that doesn't have any distortion, than I will know for certain what my next purchase will be after I get a refund for one of my defective Pipers. And I will be sure to get it from a different store.

Gee, I hope Kazaa has some Ch. 24's....

Note: Sorry if this post was a bit incoherant and/or obnoxious. I'm up much too early....

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I've just listened to a Chapter 24 on Kazaa. It has the exact same distortion, although it really wasn't noticable untill the 3 minute mark, thanks to the less-than-perfect sound doohicky hooked up to my computer. Just the same, it was there. It sounded the same. I'll give some other ch. 24's a listen, but at this point, I doubt there will be much difference.

Maybe I should just shut up about this. The only thing I can possibly accomplish is to ruin Piper for everybody. Still, it would also be nice to have some closure on this. If anybody actually will take the time to give Ch. 24 a listen, know this: the distortion only really becomes noticable at the 3 minute mark, toward the very end of the song. Now that I think of it, I might have over-hyped the extent this distortion damages the song. It's annoying and noticeable, but not quite excruciating.

Thanks to those who took the time to help me with this. It's appreciated.

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You know, on the mono releases of Piper, there's some fuzzy guitar not in evidence on the regular stereo release. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe you've just got ****ing amazing hearing.

... to rebuild him,

Mark

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When Bucks Fizz’s tour bus crashed they all survived. When Metallica's bus crashed Cliff Burton died. Why?

"Maybe you've just got ****ing amazing hearing."

Naw. I'm just picky. Even though some rather nasty distortion is audible to me, it's apparently just background sound to everybody else. Or maybe I'm hearing something that's supposed to be part of the song. Piper is a very experimental album after all, and some odd background distortion could very well be part of the intended experience. Who knows, maybe what I'm hearing isn't "distortion" at all, just a very eccentric production trick that I don't quite "get." Maybe I'm just not used to overtly experimental music. Then again, I didn't have any serious problems with Saucerful or Atom Heart Mother, and their both experimental albums.... In any case, I think I'll stop running this topic into the ground. If we keep this up, this thread will eventually start looking like Monty Python's "Dead Parrot" sketch.

"This parrot is dead! It was nailed to the perch!"

"No it isn't. It's just having a nap."

"This parrot is dead! It has ceased to be!"


and so forth.......

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Just don't mention the war.

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When Bucks Fizz’s tour bus crashed they all survived. When Metallica's bus crashed Cliff Burton died. Why?

Or StewardESSES

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When Bucks Fizz’s tour bus crashed they all survived. When Metallica's bus crashed Cliff Burton died. Why?

Two thumbs.

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