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Old 07-13-2002, 07:40 PM
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Guitar God?

Well, a week ago I was walking around in a CD store and I found a CD called "Guitar Gods". For pure curiosity I checked it. I wasn't surprised when I just found those known names: Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Hendrix... Not that they're not good at playing the guitar, not at ALL. But why don't I ever see DG recongnized as a guitar god? Let me just put a parenthesis here for the word GOD, that, I know, had already caused some discussion here; I just used it because of the CD title.
Well, I don't think that a good guitarist is only that one that plays in the speed of light. DG composed, for me, the best guitar solos ever! The solo from "Time" still makes me go numb, even though I've already heard it a thousand times. And speaking of "numb", Comforatably Numb simply has no eartly conexion! What I mean is: Why isn't Gilmour recognized for his work? It isn't for lack of repercussion, because Pink Floyd is known world wide.
I can't say if this is an interesting issue, but I'd like to discuss it.
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Old 07-13-2002, 09:51 PM
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Don't let it bother you, Seamus15. Dave gets plenty of respect in the guitar world. He has a fairly unique style, utilizes bends and effects more than anyone else I can think of. My best friend is a world-class guitar player; he can duplicate licks of Vinnie Moore, Yngwie, Satriani, Zakk Wylde, etc. But he cannot duplicate Dave's riffs. I asked him to do his version of Comfy Numb solo(I have the backing track) but he declined---said I wouldn't like it cause he couldn't do justice to it. He said it's just a different style of playing than he has learned. He said he had too much respect for Dave's trademark piece to make it sound like something else.
Remember too that most guitar compilations thrown together like that CD you're talking about just pick a few mainstream players with the biggest names targeting the widest possible audience. It's no disgrace or disrespect that Dave isn't on it.

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Old 07-14-2002, 12:25 AM
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I heard he sings his solos then goes back and figures them out.
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Old 07-14-2002, 01:00 AM
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I heard he sings his solos then goes back and figures them out.
That makes perfect sense. I often can hear more emotional nuances in his guitar playing than in most people's singing.
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Old 07-14-2002, 01:28 AM
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HM, I have to say that I've always had great respect for the man and his guitar playing, exactly for that unique style of his that just can't be reproduced.

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Old 07-14-2002, 03:06 AM
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Keep in mind that the comf. numb solo was, as Gilmour said, 6 different takes mixed together. He explained how he learned it from the final mix of the song to play it live. He obviously improvised in concert but the general solo from the studio is still there. So he is playing 5 or 6 solos on different tracks and than fading them in and out at the best spots to sound like one continual solo. That makes it tough to duplicate.
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Old 07-14-2002, 03:16 AM
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And that also makes it some quick-as-hell mixing.
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Old 07-14-2002, 03:29 AM
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Yeah it is still very impressive. It's not a cheap gimmick or anything. The mixing alone takes a real creative person. To make it flow and everything.
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Old 07-14-2002, 03:37 AM
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Mixing is hard as hell. I haven't quite mastered the art of mixing from a four track, let alone a 24 track with echo returns and the whole bit.
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Old 07-14-2002, 04:02 AM
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Do you ever put 3 tracks onto one?
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Old 07-14-2002, 01:16 PM
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Yeah it is still very impressive. It's not a cheap gimmick or anything. The mixing alone takes a real creative person. To make it flow and everything.
Did you ever pay attention to the mixing of TDSotM (pincipaly Time and Money)? That can drive anyone who's trying to duplicate it crazy! I mean, each channel of the stereo has independent lead guitar riffs, in different pitches and tones! Gathered together they make up the sound that you hear! That's why they spent so much time recording it. That record, for me, is a real piece of true art!
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Old 07-14-2002, 01:43 PM
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Do you ever put 3 tracks onto one?
You mean bouncing tracks? The recorder (Fostex) I've got can do that, but I lost the manual ages ago and I can't figure out how to it now. I'v been trying to find the manual ever since.
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Old 07-14-2002, 02:29 PM
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Gilmour is a guitar GOD, because of his phrasing and impeccably clean playing. I think the quote in my signature says it all.

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Old 07-14-2002, 02:57 PM
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I heard he sings his solos then goes back and figures them out.


That definitely must be the way he gets them! Like I wrote elsewhere, DG's solos never break the song. It's not like other guitar solos (even Stairway's main solo etc) , where you have a change like - "ok, the vocal's over, this is the guitar solo now.." ..Nope.
DG's solos sound like they're singing the lyrics, echoing the feel of the song and you could (I can!) relate the solo to the song's theme so deeply!


terminalfrost : i do like the quote in your sig!
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Old 07-14-2002, 03:39 PM
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Comfynumb is mostly bends. Brutal.
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