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Old 10-19-2002, 09:59 PM
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Unhappy What if Dave. not Rog, left

If Dave would have left would Floyd have been officially done decades ago. Can you replace not just the main vocalist, but the guitarist in a guitar driven (Mostly, but not fully) band. Its obvious the Floyd can continue without Rog, thanks for the lyrics buddy. But does anyone agree that David Gilmour cannot ever be replaced in Pink Floyd. I think so. Your thoughts please.
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Old 10-19-2002, 10:08 PM
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that's a good question....I'm sure they'd carry on in the like, since originally they did lose both their guitarist and main lyricist. And also when they lost their other main lyricist and bassist, they picked it up. I think Nick said it was amazing how they could just get on with it at times, in spite of the fact that they should have given up right there and then. Of course...he was the only one that didn't leave/get kicked out/replace anyone.
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Old 10-19-2002, 10:32 PM
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Yes, it is true that Nick Mason is the only rock in the band. However, when comparing the Floyd tracks on Rogers "In the Flesh" and Floyds "PULSE", are Rogers new band performing covers? Rogers guitarists are brilliant in their own way, but do they really compare with Dave. And the vocals Roger brings in to replace Daves, are they really doing the originals any justice? I dont get involved with the whole dave is better or Rog is better bullshit. However, I dont think a Pink Floyd project could ever come to life without Dave.
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Old 10-19-2002, 10:40 PM
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well, pending on artistic input, and how you look at it, both are doing covers if they are performing songs they didn't write. Granted, they have played on these tracks and that does make them part of the creativity which spawned the songs. But then again, by that definition, Dave performing Syd's songs would be considered covering, since he did not write nor did he play on the original track. He brought a new outlook to the band. Which is the case in most bands - each seperate entity has a differing view from the next, and combining those efforts produces one sound. Pink Floyd now is legally Pink Floyd, sentimentally is a whole different issue.
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Old 10-19-2002, 11:23 PM
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it would probally just become like his solo career, but with the members of Pink Floyd as his backup.
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Old 10-20-2002, 03:41 AM
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Well, now you would have Pros And Cons with Nick on drums...
Anyway, yes, I think that David Gilmour is the band member which is the most difficult to replace: his guitar playing is by far the most distinctive and recognizable characteristic of Floyd music.
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Old 10-20-2002, 04:17 AM
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In 1983 the consequence of a Dave abandon would have been the PF split, and probably then Nick would have collaborated with Rog for his solo projects.
Supposing Wright was still in the band, and not in a bad mood towards Rog, probably (but I'm not certain) they could have done something more using PF name recruiting Snowy White or, occasionally, Jeff Beck.
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Old 10-20-2002, 09:12 AM
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I think the guitarists Roger uses for his live sets compare very well with Dave. Dave's genius was in writing the solos and guitar players like snowy White have no problem playing them. None of Roger's band can sing as well as Dave though, and none of them can write solos as good as Dave's.

I think tha Pink Floyd is not as good wihtout either Roger or Dave. Since Roger left most of the Floyd's work is just cloning some of the themes of older work, and Roger's music although conceptually very good is not very strong musically without Gilmoour and Wright).

Pink Floyd could survive without Dave but it would be as damaged as they are now without Roger.
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Blytey you're quite right, Pink Floyd as a whole is far greater than the sum of it's parts. Or something like that.
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Old 10-20-2002, 12:50 PM
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Well, I personally think if Mr. Gilmour left in 1983, you'd end up with two bands, neither of which were Pink Floyd: one with Mr. Waters and Mr. Mason, and the other one with Mr. Gilmour and Mr. Wright (who by that time would have already been out of PF, and I can't see him going back to Mr. Waters).

As for what guitarists would play in Mr. Gilmour's place, perhaps Snowy White. Tim Renwick also isn't too bad, either. (Someone here is a fan of his...who was that?)
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Old 10-20-2002, 02:17 PM
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Snowy White or, occasionally, Jeff Beck.
Jeff Beck??!?!?! :o
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Old 10-20-2002, 02:21 PM
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In those years the obvious substitute would have been good old Snowy White.
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Old 10-20-2002, 03:19 PM
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No ... I mean to ask is : Jeff Beck? I mean has Beck ever played for 'em before? Or was that name just randomly given?
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Old 10-20-2002, 03:47 PM
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Jeff Beck played on Roger Waters's "Amused To Death".
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Old 10-20-2002, 06:13 PM
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One thing--Jeff Beck has difficulties due to tinnitus. The ringing in his ears is apparently intense enough that he can't tour very much. So it might not work.
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