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| High Hopes: reference to Roger? In the song "high hopes" there is this phrase: "Enumbered forever by desire and ambition There's a hunger still unsatisfied" ...make this reference to Roger?
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? It's Encumbered forever.... Could be they like taking shots at one another in their songs. Maybe it's a British thing. Or it's Vanity, to get a punch at the others, so to speak.. ![]()
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Well, Polly wrote it and I think its just a general comment. Though she did write a verse about Roger in one of the other songs from DB
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? the album is full of ambiguous lines, which could be taken as pot shots at roger, altho i rly dont know whether they are intended. i wud probably say they aren't. ![]()
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Well Polly said the following verse from poles apart is about Roger, with the 1st verse about Syd: "Hey you... did you ever realise what you'd become And did you see that it wasn't only me you were running from Did you know all the time but it never bothered you anyway Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes" But I don't think she said anyhting about other lines from TDB.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? I think they're talking about themselves. All of them.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Yeah maybe... But I tought about Roger because he was the hungry still unsatisfied, expecially when he wanted to turn the group name in "Roger Waters and the Pink Floyd"
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Hey guys, that's what makes TDB a level above AMLOR, it contains loads more ambiguity, thanks largely to one P.S. Fans often forget about the later period, but no, that was quite an album. Not only lyrically alluding but musically as well. If this is their last (God forbid), not a bad note to end on. Sorry about the wayward path original poster. |
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Quote:
That sounds nearly like Derek and The Dominoes, Billy Savage and The Desperados, X and The Mysterians and some other funny rock'n'roll band names I've seen.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? David Gilmour was asked in an interview right after the release of The Division Bell whether lines like: "Do You Want My Blood? Do You Want My Tears? What Do You Want?" from What Do You Want From Me? and "So I open my door to my enemies. And ask 'Can we wipe the slate clean' But they tell me to 'Please go f**k myself'" from Lost for Words were about Roger. And his response was something like (and I'm paraphrasing) "Well if you think it's about Roger. Then just go ahead and run with it. But all I can say is: At the time it had nothing to do with Roger"
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? To me just about everything on the album is about Roger. Yes, Dave denies it.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Even the seagulls on Marooned?
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? The entire album is a thinly veiled account of their relationship with Roger.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? Yes, I believe the album is definatly sprinkled with references and thoughts on RW, but I don't think it's the main focus. I believe the album is more about communication, and what happens when that communication breaks down (just like the whole RW issue...). I think "Poles Apart" "Lost For Words" are the ones that focus mostly on Roger...the other's, like "High Hopes", has a line or two. BTW...in my opinion, "High Hopes" is about the "ol' days," how things used to be, and how they were better. This doesn't solely refer to the youth of Pink Floyd, but to the "ol' times" of anyone. This is why TDB is such a good album...it means different things to different people.
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| Re: High Hopes: reference to Roger? High Hopes was a return to David's childhood, as was Fat Old Sun. Nothing more, nothing less WhiteHouse
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