Does anyone else feel that The Wall is the least compelling in terms of lyrics

That's a shame, because the music on it sucks.

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is snuggly

FGP: yes.
Gerald: yes.

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"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." Tom Waits

What is good on it lyrically is genius. What is good on it musically is genius. Unfortunately there isn't much of either.

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stchrissie is not me.

I checked out some sites giving review about the wall and i think most of them give "big applaus". I share the same view with some people who already posted, but i think it's still a nice one, though it's not genius

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Shine on you crazy diamond

_when I go forward, You go backward, and somewhere We will meet_

I think the subject has already been covered in the "Wall Overrated?" (or whatever it is called) thread. Anyway, trying to reply seriously and briefly - and staying on topic i.e. lyrics only - I just think that all of the previous 3 albums have overall better lyrics. And a more universal concept I may add.

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"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." Tom Waits

What mad yannis said.

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In the womb, the baby thinks that it's the universe. And when the baby is born, there is a glimmer of light.
I was there, but now I am here. So there are two things - me and the universe. The universe is there for me.
Then what happens? Other people. But the universe is there for you. Now tell me what happened in the glade.
I did something to myself. Like entertainment, like music, like a daydream. There was nothing there and I saw something.
I saw his head on the bonnet of the car. You can say what you like but I saw the bird of paradise spread its wings.
DO YOU PLAY BRIDGE?

Yeah, that's basically how I feel too. I respect that he was trying to make an interesting concept album, and it works in many regards... but I would have rather seen lyrics based on real situations (tho, I guess The Wall largely is based about Roger, and not just "Pink") and more universal things.

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Breathe

Every song tries to capture an emotion or place in someone's life. The Wall tried to capture that emotion or place in Roger's life over the course of two LPs.

In my opinion it was the most ambitious (and successful) concept album written. And I think they succeeded.

Lyrically...yeah it's Waters' best stuff.

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Only the very safe,
Can talk about wrong and right.
Of those that are forced to choose,
There's some who will choose to fight.

I'm sorry but I seriously like the lyrics on final cut better than the lyrics to the wall...I'm going to run and hide to take cover now...

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Where's Handbanana?

I love The Wall, but it might be way too personal. It's taken a while to fully understand it (the movie was some help, though), but even though I'm not disregarding any aspect of it, I can't help but feel, sometimes, that it's just a truckload of whine, whine, whine.
I think I even talked to my radio once: I told it to 'Quit whining!!! We got the point, already!!'

Or, when I'm wathing the movie, I like to yell 'daddy!!daddy!!' in a mock childish voice, at chosen points of the plot.

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"What is not? And why, if we, do we? Of course!"

The Wall is something you can really relate to when you're 16-18 years old (as it was for me) and I can definitely see why it appeals to youngest fans here but now that I'm 32 I feel I am closer to Dark Side or WYWH feelings.

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"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." Tom Waits

Yea its probably the same with the final cut. Your possible pasts always makes me think about my ex girlfriends and what not...And as far as the wall i always listen to comfortably numb before i leave for the first day back to school, it gets me nice and depressed for the day ahead.

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Where's Handbanana?

I don't relate much to The Wall and I never did. I think it's just because I'm not fascistic rock star ( ). No, seriously - I relate much more to Dark Side, WYWH and maybe the most to Animals, which has the best political lyrics of PF albums I think. And I relate to Amused To Death and in some odd way to Broken China too.

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In the womb, the baby thinks that it's the universe. And when the baby is born, there is a glimmer of light.
I was there, but now I am here. So there are two things - me and the universe. The universe is there for me.
Then what happens? Other people. But the universe is there for you. Now tell me what happened in the glade.
I did something to myself. Like entertainment, like music, like a daydream. There was nothing there and I saw something.
I saw his head on the bonnet of the car. You can say what you like but I saw the bird of paradise spread its wings.
DO YOU PLAY BRIDGE?

I relate to certain songs. I particularly like "The Thin Ice" and its message. "Nobody Home" suits me.

However, yes, the lyrics to the Wall are weak compared to, say, DSOTM, OBC, or its successor TFC. It was somewhat autobiographical, but it seems like Rog wasn't feeling it as much he should've been. Just my opinion.

How many songs does that "Ooh babe" line come in in, anyway? Anyone have an exact count? It gets a bit irritating.

I like what NNJ said one time about it sounding like bad teenage poetry. I saw some bad teenage poetry (not that I can do better) during lunch period today. There were a few similarities, indeed. Roger was (or is) a great lyricist, but IMO, not one of his finest outings.