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Old 07-15-2001, 09:04 PM
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Re: DOGS SHEEP OR PIGS

Yeah, Roger probably read the book and thought it was a cool idea to use Animals to represent society but I doubt he used it as a script to the album.
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Exactly Radiochair - right on - Read my Shpeel on some other topic about Animals - ohh yea -"Yay or Nay"
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fixxlevy: Indeed. I think, with Roger's lyrical genius and all, he wouldn't have to pull material from a piece of literature.
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Old 07-26-2001, 09:38 AM
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Look - of course he didn't pull Lyrics from the book (Though he did pull lyrics from the Bible) but I'm talking about Concepts and themes - of course molding them into his perception of society.
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Re: DOGS SHEEP OR PIGS

Firstly, Charade, I sense you're getting more and more hot and bothered as you post more and more messages. Be cool, dude. Take a chill pill.

Secondly, not wanting to be pedantic, but intending to be so in any case, I can't recall the 23rd Psalm mention anything about hanging on hooks in high places or releasing(eth) one's soul with bright knives, nor for that matter, extolling the mastery of Karaté.

Ok, the Bible, indeed, may have inspired Roger's HELLworthy blasphemy, but we won't labour that point either. :smile:

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Re: DOGS SHEEP OR PIGS

I don't think that it mentioned Buggers either.

Maybe in the Sodom and Gomorrah section....
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Yes, Your right and I did realize that too about the bible(but that was in parenthesis, I didn't want it to seem to important)

a chill Pill? I'll have to check if K-mart has those...
actually, sorry if i came across as being hot and bothered - I was just discussing the topic really, and I didn't mean to seem, um "angry".

I just wanted to make sure that they knew what I was talking about.


Anyway sorry for any um..anything i guess.

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No worries, Charade, mate.

Perhaps "hot and bothered" was the wrong phrase. More like "impatient," remembering I was trailing you around the boards at about that time. And I recalled that you'd started another post on another board with "Look - " in a possible attempt to return "on-topic" which you did admirably. In both cases...I TEEnk.

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Yea I figured that much, as I posted something else a little "bothered" like.

Look - I...j/k

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Re: DOGS SHEEP OR PIGS

I just want to reiterate Charade's point-- Roger didn't steal from Animal farm, but he was definitely inspired by it.

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NNJ: Shall we buy a new guitar? Shall we drive a more powerful car? Shall we work straight through the night? Shall we get into fights, leave the lights on, drop bombs, do tours of the East, contract diseases, bury bones, break up homes, send flowers by phone, take to drink, go to shrinks, give up meat, rarely sleep, keep people as pets, train dogs, race rats, fill the attic with cash, bry treasure, store our leisure, but never relax at all, with our backs to the wall?

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hmmm, I think that song as a whole belongs in the "shivers" topic.
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yes, shivers. not here though. The "waters" animals have obvious qualities unlike orwell's. Inspired? yes. based on? perhaps. identical? nope. I still hold that the song (at least the lyrics) to dogs was somewhat of a confession by Roger. I think he saw himself as one of the dogs. I mean if we all fit into one category so we do. I think social life is a bit more complex but really would roger portray himself as a pig or sheep. i doubt it. blah blah... i'm done
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This is probably untrue, but I heard somewhere that the three "pigs" in the song "Pigs (Three Different Ones)" are each a slam on a different PF member, that he was venting at each of them in turn--a sort of veiled "Ten (or so) Things I Hate About You" session...sorry for the movie title ripoff. I can guess which stanza would represent Mr. Gilmour IF we were to take that approach...but the other two--I can't tell for sure which is which and who is who.

Is this interpretation even a possibility, or is that complete BS?
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