Pink Floyds Keyboard Section

I get what you are saying!! Wright IS talented but playing fast isn't his style. I am amazed on how he can handle all of that equipment at once.

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I think Richard was fired because, by his own admission, he had not contributed creatively for some considerable time. I think he is still salaried..?

But credit where it's due - he did make a significant contribution in the early days. Us & Them is fantastic.

I have heard some of his solo stuff and it's OK. Personally I am more interested in the guitar sound. Keyboards and percussion are rarely distinctive. I guess that's why Not Now John forgot about Carin and Wallace.

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Simon

I can tell right away that you are a guitar player Pink Pig. That's alright everyone has a different taste when it comes to music. I personally think that keyboards add, espescially to the music of the Floyd, colour to the sound.

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"I mean they're Gonna Kill Ya, So like, if you give em a quick shh short, sharp, shock, they don't do it again, dig it..."

Yes I agree - the keyboard does add another 'layer' and dimension of sound, makes it more colourful and adds a great sense of style.

I Play keyboard and guitar, so though Guitar is used soo much more, i really enjoy hearing keyboard (organ or any - type) in music, great for setting the tone.

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That's Cool Charade. I have been banging the keys (Piano) since I was little. A few years ago I save up enough money and bought a Hammond (B3) Organ and a Leslie 122 Speaker, cost me $5000.00. I also aquired a Fender-Rhodes Electric Piano (INTRO Keyboard to Sheep) and a Hohner Clavinet (SOYCD Part 8 Funky Bass Riff) In my band we do a lot of cover tunes in bars. The crowd just loves it when we slip in a little Floyd here and there. It's neat cause the intro to LED ZEPPELIN'S "Trampled Underfoot" is in the Same Key as "Shine On", so I combined the funky bass line with the intro. ANYWAYS Sorry to get of topic. Both Wright & Carin seem to recreate a different feel to the Keyboard section with todays Kurzweil sythesizers, don't you think????

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I Play The Guitar and I agree with charade I am
& wrightkeys that the keyboards are vital in enriching the music as a combination with The Guitars and other instruments such as drums and a flute.

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Emily Tries ,But Misunderstands,
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So Shine On!

I agree that the keyboards, drummer etc all add layers and depth to the music. And boy, don't you miss the bass player when he's not there ?

But, I don't believe many people (present company excepted :smile recognise Floyd as a great keyboard band.

Sorry chaps !

Sorry, I obviously stand corrected. But I think Rick IS a good improviser, and Floyd were a jam band, well before DSOTM came out anyways. Listen to any of thelive bootlegs from 70 or 71 and you'll hear plenty of improv from rick and lots of jamming from the band. Why do u think Careful with the axe is always diff? because of improvising,

after listening yesterday to "Atom heart Mother goes on the road" with a friend, I might take some of my words back,and agree with GeddyJunior, for I have noticed Rick to have add little additions of tunes of keyboards in the background to pieces such as Carefull with that Axe Eugene and Atom Heart Mother, and It's true every version of CWTAE is a bit different.So He could Improvise.
But I still stay with the statement that wrightkeys has noted that playing fast wasn't Rick style, rather than dealing with a lot of equipment, which includes the Farfisa organ, the Hammond organ, the Acoustic & Electric piano,the VCS3 Synth,and the occasional mellotron.
So he could Improvise, But he wouldn't play fast.
What's for sure he's a hell much better keyboard player than I could ever have been...

But atleast I'm studing the guitar... :smile:

and don't worry Pink Pig, I won't forget the bass Guitar & player...

If we're talking about bass guitars, which do you prefer? Fender? Ibanez? Rickenbaker?
Just a thought...

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Emily Tries ,But Misunderstands,
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So Shine On!

OK, Wright could handle alot of equipment, but didn't the boys say in the Live at Pompeii video that this is not a measurement of talent. After all, they contested the idea that they were slaves to special effects (though in MLoR it was true). Roger said, and I don't know that this is an exact qoute but you get the idea, "you can't hand someone a guitar and they just become clapton" So why would it be different in Wright's case, why would he suddenly be the piano man?

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I believe he was saying that "we're trying not to be slaves to our equipment, and in the past we have been, but what we're trying to do is to sort it all out". Then Gilmour says it would be an interresting experiment to put people with all of this equipment, don't know much about it, trying to do what they can with it,then roger waters said:
"It's like saying 'give a man a les paul guitar and he becomes eric Clapton' and that's not true, if you give a man an amplifier and synthesizer, he doesn't becomes us"...

anyway, I think the digital synthesizers made contemporary "musicians" laizy, cause they don't invest in playing any more, they just push one or two programed keys and there goes the digital effects.Of course if there is technology to use it It's good to use it if you use it properly,Like Porcupine tree did with "the sky Moves sideways" on 1995,but if you become a slave, just as floyd fokes noted back in 1972, the music loses It's depth and meaning. Back in the 1970's, when there were analogic synthesizers and instruments like the mellotron, the keyboard players and the musicians had no choice but to invest in the music and to actuly play the instrument,
or if you use effects, "You got to have it in your head first" as david gilmour said in the Pompeii interview , or maybe experiment
muscially,which is allways good, and not throw Senseless sounds into the air, which has no meaning or direction not so ever.

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Emily Tries ,But Misunderstands,
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So Shine On!

He's right! The Floyd invested a lot of studio time in creating the perfect sound (ie reseting Dolby tape machines for the echo in "Us And Them". Overdubbing layer upon layer of one monotone synth to create the intro to Shine On) It was pretty much based around continually creating something and the tools they were working with. However, later on with such albums as "The Wall" and "The Final Cut" experimentation and Jamming became less important.


It's rather funny cause the Floyd went from being an all out improvisational, where every night a song was different (ie Echoes) to a point where they had to play the same thing in exact time to match what ever was going on the screen (ie The Wall...)

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Hmmm..maybe there was more scope for improvisation in the early days. I now remember reading or hearing an interview with the band. Roger Waters was explaining how Syd Barrett played a song called "Have You Got It Yet ?"

As the title suggests this was totally improvised and as the band got the feel for it Syd would change something different (tempo, key etc).

By the way _archer, I play a Fender Strat. Badly !

Yes, it seems as experimentation and improvisation was very much inherited in the early years, and as things progress, they sort of produce a sense of normality. As young people experimentation is a must (no comments), yet as we get older and more -refined, i believe that we want a more stable form of anything - more concrete, as the music became.

This is most true when you realize how the same "The Final Cut" and the "Wall" are. Every album before these two were very very much different (with the exception of maybe Piper and Saucerful of Secrets - but they were still quite different).

Piper - Obscured by Clouds - Ummagumma - Meddle - DSOTM - WYWH - ANIMALS - THE WALL , all of these are so very different and include sooo many beautiful "synth" effects and guitar whines, it's great.

This is what Floyd was - different, not only from other bands but different from itself.

It contradicted itself, it was jazzy yet hard and all in the same - beautiful.

There's not a whole lot wrong with conformity, it makes you comfortably numb.

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