Anyone here ever disappointed when they find out the true meaning of some PF songs?

I don't think he did.

So asydwaters has finally been topped, eh?

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hmmm thats a toughie. at least asydwaters has the nice colors.

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And the different size fonts.

And the terrible semi-HTML.

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And the strange references to members of this forum tied into lyrical quotes.

he's a genius. i thank god everyday that we have him.

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Label as you wish, it's all just window dressing to me....

-profound-... is there any ground left to spit on, to hurl hate and prejudice at... any more wounds with bollock bandages ready to split open again...

Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall, and I just got why all the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put humpty together again...

The bird from the shell.... Hell.... DEMIAN... Herman Hesse...

If it aint broken, its got a wall around it.

Entertaining ourselves into automotons...

Speak through words, but don't let other people smother and wrap you up in them, you just won't evolve... Stay in a cage ... cold comfort... with a label... for human pain...

Go on, blame someone, somebody, its the biggest chorus going... its everyones fault, someone started it...

The other night I had a dream... I was eve in garden of Eden... The serpent didn't get to finish its sentence before a grabbed it and beat it to a pulp. Then I chopped down the Tree of Knowledge fo Good and Evil, took all the apples and waited till they fermented.... Got pissed, and forgot all about what good and evil was...

What about your favourite nightmare?

cheers

tilting...

Apologies...

I had a day of 'loosing' my cool. Its hard to stay 'cool', that is
not fashionable 'cool' but even tempered.

There is a human being in my class, the label if you wish for this
person at the moment, is Malignant Narcissist or Narcissistic
Personality Disorder.

I think one of the verses someone wrote before, wals about that
really... Don't shoot them...

My only 'weapon' is to just be myself, honest, not ashamed of
feelings, of wounds. And for months now, with others who know
the game, only because we've been burnt or made by the same,
have been doing the same, its okay to feel is the message, and
being a fan... of this or that... or having a degree or a car...
or a big house, for my big mouth... doesn't heal...

My father is one as well...NPD. again, I also vote a vote of
confidence in them just being human beings. They are borne of
this machine.

Both the one in my class, and my father, tried to survive emotional
suffering by buying the lie that is pumped out everywhere, that you
can get over insecurity and shame (the so called dark side) by
getting a degree, rich and successful, and if that fails, join a
cause...

So, in my class, as in school, there is no 'competition' in me,
because I think its enough to be humane in these days, but its
only part choice, I got made by others who have suffered and
'learnt' to survive by covering it up with 'out there'... and
they don't heal, they have to constantly undermine or attack or
guilt or blame... the whole of it rests on an inability to tolerate
ego equillibrium, to be human to human... I don't think its
their 'fault' as such, I can only be myself, be true to myself,
and that is to not be ashamed of the pain, and to do that is to
not compete, rather, it is by example, just showing but not
'telling' others... its okay to feel... I don't know how you
can get over the kinds of wounds being met out to children and
people these days, other than to be yourself a place where its
okay to feel. I can't judge, because I know from
those wounds, how it feels to live without dignity... Only its
a real struggle to tolerate this person in my class.

He has been factionalizing, splitting, name calling, all by proxy,
and those young students who have good natures, they don't know
his game and think he is 'cool' as in fashionable. Its like
being back at kindergarden.

So he started turning teacher against teacher and making up
accusations of racism... He got undermined again in the class,
the teacher and her manager were shaking, because when you can't
say where it is coming from, because the NPD is so insecure, he
covers it and hides it and does it through other people...

So I did loose it... I just said that I was sick of all the hacking
and splitting and name calling and backstabbing..

Then the manager went on to talk about how the teacher gives
the most attention to dominant personalites.

I then went off and said, speaking of dominant personalities,
Hitler had one, yep, and (Alice Miller - The Drama of Being a Child),
you guessed it, he was utterly ego smashed by his father as
a child, and covered it all over .. behind a cause... Very charismatic
and so on... but behind it, an ego that had been beaten to a pulp
and trying to compensate by 'out there' and scape goating.

So I apologise to those who said profound or not profound and the
Klondike bar i liked....

You don't have to call me anything... I am beginning to loose my
grasp of the dictionary in any case... I still use the words, but
honestly, some of it is just bollocks. Like I did say, be a fan
unto yourself. I have to say though, if I use 'big' words, or
if I am just using plain words - in either case being 'honest',
I get shouted down...

It does make me despair...

So, in any case, I want to say sorry to whom-ever I offended.

But as for being profound or profound = bollocks, I take the
Klondike bar, yep, the Klondike bar can cop that label...

Take care,

I'm chilling for the rest of the day....

The student, NPD (for the moment), developed instant pain, that
is physical pain, and finally had to leave the class early,
I did not mean to throw a spear (words) at him, but I couldn't
stand to see people turn against people because of his insecurities.
What can I do? They won't admit to themselves that they have
insecurities... This society is the disease... The machine... Keeps
pumping out the lie...

So, today, I will do as I usually do, a bit of homework, some more
essays, poems, and cry... Its the only way I know how to let the
anger go. I don't blame the NPD's, they were just smothered with
lies... and afterall, came from such pain, they would want to hide
in this world...

Sincerely (and I mean that most sincerely)....

tilting...

... I've expelled my animus, I think I am back in balance again.

Dr. Kevorkian's sounding pretty smart now.

I have to come clean...

Of course it wasn't a dream, too contiguous.

Where was Adam, well, he was MIA... out labelling all the other things on the planet with his notebook...

Yep, I woke up and I still didn't see him for miles.

Also, why does Tarzan get to have all the fun, why can't Jane go swinging? Tarzan can stay at home with the minkey.

As for my favourite song of Floyd's : keeping to the thread : so many, really, all with truth, because art is like that, no matter how cloaked, it is like a shard from the heart the pierces into others...

When I was young... I remember I played 'The Wall' on a continuous playback tape deck. It was the only way I could get to sleep.... for about 6 months... There was only that and "A Perfect Day" by Lou Reed - Transformer album.

For me, presently, the most valueable song is "On The Turning Away"....

I heard an interview last night too with Neil Young... He said something like he likes his 'fans', that is to know he has touched someone, moved someone, but he likes his privacy too...

Of course, any person has to feel like that, I can only imagine what it must be like to be a 'star'as they say, except it doesn't look very 'stary' to me... They sing from the heart, then get a huge audience.... I think we all want to experess ourselves, but we don't have to leave it up to them or demand more from them, they have their right to privacy... And I can imagine (and it is imagination too) how much inhumanity they have to see from the record companies and so on... It must be difficult don't you think? It just looks like another cage to me.... Imagine trying to walk out of your house and getting mobbed, and photographed... and rumours and all that...

Again, a fan unto yourself...

I figured it out, but its not as if I am the only one, or it hasn't all been done and said before, but, the chain is as strong as its weakest link, until all people in the chain are fans unto themselves, whole, they chain will always be equal to its weakest link... That is an Opinion... Onion boy!

I hate that show.

yeah its bad. the guy is worse than the woman too.

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You just LOVE your dirty little double entendres, don't you, GTiM?

Tilting: I must mention and admire your lengthy, sometimes confusing, but often interesting and funny posts.

My own insecurities prevent me from really admitting how often I feel the same way as you describe in places, but are you sure you don't secretly admire/fancy your NPD student?

And "minkey" made me think of Inspector Clouseau.

Don't despair.

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