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Was Meddle, Live at pompei, DSOTM, and WYWH Pink Floyds prime

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Old 12-07-2003, 07:12 PM
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He forgot Obscured By Clouds though.
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Old 12-07-2003, 07:40 PM
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He forgot Obscured By Clouds though.
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:28 AM
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Old 12-08-2003, 05:05 AM
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I think Pink Floyd Studio Prime was between 1968-1975 and that their Live Prime was in 1970-1971.
IMHO, WYWH was their best Studio Album.

and I think Meddle is a great Album, and I like each and every track on it. so please don't pick on it. It is a must for every floydian, and is IMHO much better than Animals.

Please don't forget that during the early and mid 70's (Until and including WYWH) The band worked together as a team, whlist Waters take over ruined the band's relationship and lowered Its musical standarts. as we all know, Roger was tone-Deaf.
as for the wall, many of the tracks listed as written by waters were actually composed by Gilmour.

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Old 12-08-2003, 09:25 AM
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I believe Pink Floyd were at their creative peak until Wish You Were Here, which is a great album I feel is let down by Welcome to the Machine and Have a Cigar which sound like filler.
Animals for that matter is the last truly great album Pink Floyd recorded to my ears as I felt The Wall and The Final Cut had really groundbreaking concepts but were musically weak.
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:22 PM
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Roger being tone deaf has little to do with any perceived decline in the quality of Pink Floyd music. His need to control every detail of production, and his need to make the lyrics paramount is another thing altogether, but as the Who sang on their last album with legend drummer, Keith Moon, The Music Must Change.

Take for instance, the success of Animals. They released that in that turbulent time when Punk Rockers were thrashing out their three chord dirges to anarchy. Compared to most of that punk crap, Animals in its time would have been a breath of fresh air.

As I said in an earlier post, you cannot compare all of the different incarnations of Floyd because their differences (yet subtle, yet powerful) make such comparisons moot.
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Old 12-09-2003, 01:46 AM
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well, Music must change, but In means of progression, NOT Regression.
would you say that a change from echoes to brittany Spears is that kind of a needed change?

Not that I'm saying that Animals is like The noise of Brittany spears, this was a mere example.

But I do think "The Final Cut" Suffers Musicaly, and that the wall is inferior in compare with WYWH & DSOTM.
However, I do think The wall has its fine moments.
But it was never prog, and it's just doesn't represent The "True" Pink Floyd.

As for Prog albums making it in the punk era, How about "Too Old to rock'n'Roll, Too Young to die" & "Songs from the wood" by Jethro Tull, and "Trick of the Tail" & "Wind and Wuthering" by Genesis?
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Old 12-09-2003, 04:33 PM
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The Final Cut suffers in that neither Gilmour or Wright (absent from the band, at Roger's request by that stage) had no say in composing. That's not to say that it isn't a Pink Floyd album just because they didn't contribute. If that were the case, then The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn could be said to be a Syd Barrett solo album with Pink Floyd as backing musicians.

And harking back to your comments, what, pray tell is the "True Floyd?" A band like Pink Floyd never really had a "true" form, in that they were constantly changing, upgrading, experimenting, which is the kind of creation we love and expect from the Floyd. If they had've released an album of 14 or so "humalong radio friendly dance tracks," then we'd have every right to whinge. But to bag out The Wall because it isn't a "Son-of-Dark-Side" robs it of its right to stand alone. Christ, comparisons aren't made between Piper and Saucerful in the same vein, are they? And for all intents and purposes, those albums are as different as Dark Side and The Wall.
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Old 12-10-2003, 02:37 AM
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Chill Out, Dude!
I wasn't crucifying "The Wall"! I actually Think It's a Great Album! and I never said that The Final Cut isn't a Pink Floyd Album.
I'm sorry if I gave The Wrong Impression.
My point was, that "The wall" and "The final cut" were written after Pink floyd reached Its prime, which is the subject of this thread, and that DSOTM and WYWH weren't just musical master pieces,
but they set new Boundaries In Rock Music, and influenced other genres as well, whilst The wall was a great album, but Its Musical Ideas wasn't ground braking as DSOTM and WYWH.
and yes I'm well aware of the ever Evolving nature of pink floyd. I only said They started to decline towards the final Cut for the same reason you have presented - Roger Lack of will towork with the band's two most gifted composers: Gilmour & Wright.

and when I Said "True Floyd", I ment, Floyd at Its best. But of course, taste will always vary, and you can never expect any two people to have same all Likes and dislikes, but they might have a chance at common ground, and who knows, perhaps they're fond of the same band?
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