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| If the album turns out to be this greatest hits thing and that's what all the hype is about, I have to say that disappoints me. Here I am, seeing and hearing all this hype about new material and wishing my ass off that SOMETHING would come out of them since their last release was seven years ago and it's going to turn out to be a CD with songs I already own on it, just in a different order and renamed. Does that upset anyone else? I kind of think putting the greatest hits into one album (outside of Great Dance Songs) is kind of cliche anyway... But still, it's misleading to say a "new" album is coming out when the material on it is not. Does ANYONE think the Gilmour Floyd will ever come out with new material again? I have a feeling he's enjoying his vacationing and his girlfriend... and racing with Nick Mason... but I would have thought maybe they'd do at least one more... I am happy that Roger still tours, but I'm still curious about the rest of the bunch. I hope this doesn't end up triggering yet another Dave vs. Roger Floyd war... :smile: I just want to know if any of you think there's any hope for the remaining three? |
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| I totally agree with you. I also hope that gilmour is not just trying to outdo Roger again for kicks and giggles. (Off-subject) You'd think that the older those two fogies got, they would find the heart to forgive one another. Dave realizes that TDB was not that good; If Roger were to rejoin, he'd revitalize the lyrics and they would actually have a good album! (I'd say that was off subject!) |
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| You are so right... you WOULD think they'd just "get over it" by now. I have to admit, I haven't read as much as I would have liked to in regards to how each of them feel about each other now... but I am still under the impression that Roger despises the others. Anyway... the truth is, you always need balance in life. I believe in and practice a lot of philosophy that dictates a need for an emotional and intellectual balance in yourself to function as a caring but self-secure person and be successful, and I think that applies in most cases in life. Like it or not, you can argue who's better here and there and who's wrong and who's right, but the bottom line is that they all worked the best TOGETHER. I think Rog was a strong intellectual base and Dave a strong emotional base... I honestly wish I knew more about Nick and Rick so that I could figure out where they contributed too... ANYWAY... didn't want to get too off topic... but I still think the greatest hits thing is a huge disappointment... maybe one day... they'll all remember that the important thing was their incredible friendships and the wonderful music that came out of their life experiences and relationships with EACH OTHER and forget all the petty, pride-filled crap in between... and we'll all have a NEW ALBUM... :smile: I can dream! |
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| I think others may perceive him differently, but I think of two of the musical Floyds this way: Mr. Gilmour is the explosive energy, the one who captures a moment/emotion like a snapshot. Mr. Wright is the subtle weaver of chords, the one who can pull a song together into a coherent "moving picture". Of course, they are not bound to these roles, and each has been known to do something more characteristic of the other. Those two are quite a formidable musical team, in my opinion, and that's a large part of why I liked The Division Bell, even though so many people don't. As for Mr. Mason, I'm sorry, but I don't have very much information on him. I have heard him described as being more of an "architect", a bit more in line with Mr. Waters' way of doing things, but if anyone can elaborate, I'd much appreciate that, because I can't tell you any more. |
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| Well they were all studying achitects, after all. Maybe Nick never shrugged that one off.... |
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| A random question--what did they each (all five) actually end up majoring in? Is this known? By "architect," I meant a sort of conceptual architect--but did I hear correctly about Mr. Mason's being involved in the stage design for concerts, or am I remembering incorrectly? I also noticed that his symbol on PULSE looked very...precise, for lack of a better adjective--as if perhaps there were some vestiges of architectural or other drafting training still hanging around there. But I could easily be wrong on where the symbol comes from! |
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| Dave was a male model...Syd was an artist, as far as I know the other 3 were architects. Back to the original question, I would like to give Dave another shot, MLOR had a lot of promise and Dave really dropped the ball on Division Bell, I'd like to think that there is another great album left in the 3 remaining members. Sort of a post-retirement coming of age type album. Though us younger fellows probably don't want to hear about Dave needs Viagra to help his young mistress along (ok, enuf of that). As for Roger and the boys reuniting, I must pull from my memory a radio interview Roger gave to a local station when promoting his 99 tour. The host posed the re-uniting question and Roger answered it quite nicely. He was not belligerent or arguementative, but rather almost sympathetic about the whole ordeal, which makes me feel that Rog has really mellowed out. He explained that it was unlikely that he would rejoin them, they had asked him to attend the taping of pulse so they could do DSotM one last time as a whole and he had to turn them. His reason was that too many things were said on both sides about the other that just couldn't be taken back. More on his part than theirs. He felt that after saying such dreadful things about them he could never face them again. I think his statements showed little resentment but just as much shame for his whole ego trip. Now I know I'm going to be flamed out the ass for sympathizing with the guy, but that is how I remember it |
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| NNJ - If that's true then I have a whole new outlook on Mr. Waters. I would never have thought he'd admit to making too many harsh remarks or say that he was unable to face them... I guess you could look at that two ways... In one way, it's really cool of him to acknowledge all that and sound apologetic and mellowed out and peaceful and such... it shows he really put some thought into what happened and wants to be the better person... And on the other hand, I suppose I'm being pessimistic here - but it is also a somewhat cowardly way out of having to literally face your past. I think he took one step by saying that and is hesitating/refusing to take the next. But hell, I'm sure he has good reasons for not being ready for that. As for the new album/final album... they have said REPEATEDLY in interviews that when it's time for the "last" tour, they'll announce it as such. So I guess we can rest assured that that hasn't happened yet? pinkfloyds.com says that he's "been writing a few songs in the studio" which kind of contradicts the earlier news that he doesn't have "any" material... however, I'm a little put off by his response of "who gives a ****" when asked about the new album... (sigh) it's all so confusing... haha :smile: Anyway, I don't think we've heard the last of them on TDB. I think eventually they'll come out with something new and whenever they're done, they'll say it. I recently read an older interview where Rick Wright says they may be playing in their wheelchairs one day, but they're still going to play and it's not over yet. One also has to wonder... could it all be a big run-around on purpose? Does Dave really have new material and he's just being shady so as to put attention away from Pink Floyd for a while? Will it be another marketing ruse like the Publius Enigma? Just what goes on in Dave's head, I'd like to know... :smile: |
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| Maybe he just wanted to be appreciated on his own merits and perform as a solo artist that night. I'd get pissed off if everyone asked me to wear the same clothes time after time, just because I was wearing them at "that party where everyone really enjoyed themselves". You know? Cheers, Mark |
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| NNJ, do you have a source, link, or transcript for that interview you mentioned? I am not asking because I question you--I'm asking because I'm interested and I want to read more! |
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| fixxlevy - very good point... i hadn't thought of it that way... |
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#12
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| i heard an interview in the states too where rog said he felt bad about what had happened and kind-of wanted to apologise to the other band members. Perhaps he's happier these days - depressed people make bad tempered people. I believe he's married to an american actress now. Perhaps she's cheered him up. is she even younger than daves wife?? |
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| Do either of you know when and where this was? There's got to be a transcript out there on the Net, and I'd love to read it! |
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| FloydWaters the interview was done by a local radio station when In the Flesh came to Hershey PA in 99. The station's number on the dial is 93.5. Their call letters are WTPA. Their web address is http://www.935wtpa.com/ that is all the info I can give you. If they have a copy of it that they are willing to give out, I hope you recieve it and listen to your heart's content. |
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| Thanks for the info--I might give it a shot! |
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