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Old 12-30-2001, 03:04 PM
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So, everybody seems to be sure it's wonderful musically . Maybe it lacks from a lyrical point of view, but the music is out of discussion.

Uhm... I don't know if the lyrics are bad or good (and I don't care at all), but those songs are so obvious, simple and repetitive. And the "sublime" and "great" and "incredible" chorus on High Hopes is nothing but the same 5 notes repeated without changing anything.
Every time I listen to it, I would ask "dear Dave, are you going to change that damned chord or will you insist on it until death?"

"The grass was greener"
"The light was brighter"
"The taste was sweater"....

Yes... "And nothing changed" (sang on the famous 5 notes).
Great fantasy, uh?

The same thing for Keep Talking, even worst.
Of course they're still good musicians, able to cover the so-called song with all those beatiful guitar and keyboards sounds.
But you can cover the nothing with whatever you want, it remains always nothing.
"Forever and ever"... (same 5 notes, again!)

Then, if everybody enjoy it, maybe the "unchanging cry" is really great and sublime. But surely it's not what they use to be.






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Old 12-30-2001, 06:50 PM
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I would say that AMLoR(not TDB) is musically inclined sinse the Wall. I think Animals is the "musical" peak of Pink Floyd's discography. Same goes for the wall. I just love those killer solos in Dogs and Pigs. And I can't get enough of those riffs like In The Flesh[?], GoodBye Blue Sky, and Young Lust.

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Old 12-31-2001, 03:39 AM
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Atom Heart Beef...Pink Floyd have done that "same five notes" thing in some of their classics too:

Dogs: Who was blah blah blah,
Who was blah blah blah
Who was blah blah blah

Dark Side: All that you Blah,
and all that you blah,
all that you blah,
and all you blah.

Repetition can be powerful. Some of the most powerful speaches of all time use repetition:

"I have a dream" Luther King.
"we will fight them on the beaches" Churchill

"just thought you'd like to know"
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:43 AM
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"If I...
If I...
If I..."

Though "If"is one of me favorite songs on AHM.


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Old 12-31-2001, 03:54 AM
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In fact in most of the songs that they use repetition it ends in a rather great climax.

What a good word...climax...I might just ponder that for a while
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:58 AM
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Don't wanna sound stupid, but what does climax mean anyway?




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Old 12-31-2001, 04:03 AM
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It can mean a few things. Generally a memorable ending to some kind of build up.

You might have heard one occurring in your parents bed room
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Old 12-31-2001, 04:09 AM
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Old 12-31-2001, 04:12 AM
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It's much better when they happen to you...musically speaking of course.
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Old 12-31-2001, 04:15 AM
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Old 01-01-2002, 03:36 AM
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Old 01-04-2002, 03:30 AM
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Man, I'm not English!!!!!!!!
What d'ya expect? D'ya expect me to know every English word?

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Old 01-04-2002, 02:31 PM
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Come on Fixxy, none of that.
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Old 01-04-2002, 08:36 PM
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I apologise.
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Old 01-06-2002, 07:52 AM
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No problemo!


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