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The Final Cut Live...do You Know ?

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Old 12-16-2004, 09:08 PM
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Actually, Rick admits to taking it here, but only "socially."
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I think to a certain extent Roger was dictating what direction the solos should take (like for example "okay, at this bit you double-track a second line a third above," in Fletcher) but note-for-note is a bit extreme... I don't think Roger could even read music until later on (it would be impossible to write something like Ca Ira without being able to notate to some extent).
After revisiting the interview I just linked to, it looks to me like Roger could in fact read music by at least as early as The Wall recording sessions and may very well have been micro-managing even Dave's guitar solos at that point.
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: The Final Cut Live...do You Know ?

I downloaded "The Final Cut Live" at http://www.dgerm.no-ip.org/ but then realized that Pink Floyd broke up before they got to play it live. I think that Waters might have played it as part of his solo career.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:41 AM
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Actually, Rick admits to taking it here, but only "socially."
...as well as the others.
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:10 PM
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Re: The Final Cut Live...do You Know ?

I am a big fan of The Final Cut. I realize it could have been better had a been more of a collaborative effort, but there are some truly classic lines/songs on it. Gunners dream is truly great. The line where Roger whispers "good, thats the only time when I can really speak to you" after "sweetheart, sweatheart are you fast asleep" is just spooky (in a good way).

Had final Cut ended up as the third album of the wall - now, that would have been the best concept album of all time. The wall is fabulous on its own but I really see where The Final Cut takes it too another logical conclusion.

Its funny, people on forums like these tend to argue back and forth about this and that - when in reality we should be thankful we have the oppurtunity to listen to and then discuss such great work.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:04 PM
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Hey is it true that Richard Rite was fired for the Wall? I think the wall is one of pink floyd's strongest albums. Does anybody here agree? also, what's the full versoin of "leave them kids alone" i heard this weird part at the beginning once.
and for the record, as i didn't see anyone else post this, the song is not called "leave them kids alone" it is called "another brick in the wall,part 2" but, i did the same thing when i was 12 when this song came out, i didn't know who pink floyd was, and, untill i had heard the name of the song, i thought it was called "we don't need no education"
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:53 PM
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Had final Cut ended up as the third album of the wall - now, that would have been the best concept album of all time. The wall is fabulous on its own but I really see where The Final Cut takes it too another logical conclusion.
i agree, listen to the wall and the final cut straight through in one sitting(large time investment, but then again worth it)and they really do fit together quite well. the sax solo at the end of two suns in the sun set is a perfect outro.

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Old 09-07-2005, 10:46 PM
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i agree, listen to the wall and the final cut straight through in one sitting(large time investment, but then again worth it)and they really do fit together quite well. the sax solo at the end of two suns in the sun set is a perfect outro.
I listened to it last night (Final Cut) and I was going to say the same thing as you did re the sax solo at the end - what an awesome end to the CD. What did strike me last night was how the start of the CD up to and including Gunners Dream sounds very "Floydish" but the rest of the CD sounds more like Waters solo stuff. Just another observation.
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:48 AM
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I think that was Roger's intention: to create a continuity leading from The Wall to Pros and Cons by way of The Final Cut.

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for the record, as i didn't see anyone else post this, the song is not called "leave them kids alone" it is called "another brick in the wall,part 2" but, i did the same thing when i was 12 when this song came out, i didn't know who pink floyd was, and, untill i had heard the name of the song, i thought it was called "we don't need no education"
Joey was just taking the piss, in his lovably ham-fisted way.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:39 PM
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A quick lyrical question from the TFC. In Hero's return there is the line "and even now part of me files over Dresden at Angels One Five" - Dresden of course being a German City but what exactly does "Angels one Five" mean? I googled the line adn it brought up several aviation sites and a reference to a movie about the Battle of Britian. Is it an aircraft directional notation?

If the answer is simple I am going to look like an idiot...lol
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Old 10-07-2005, 02:19 AM
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I would guess it was the fleet that did the bombing of dresden... just a guess though
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:26 AM
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It seems weird to me that waterrs has only performed a few tracks from that album live. Songs such as final cut fletcher and two sjuns are pf classics and i would have thought these would have been performed before. Also maybe if they had got rouind 2 doing the tour then would pink floyd have stuck together?
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:49 AM
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A quick lyrical question from the TFC. In Hero's return there is the line "and even now part of me files over Dresden at Angels One Five" - Dresden of course being a German City but what exactly does "Angels one Five" mean? I googled the line adn it brought up several aviation sites and a reference to a movie about the Battle of Britian. Is it an aircraft directional notation?

If the answer is simple I am going to look like an idiot...lol
Ok, I am an idiot. I forgot that my brother is a bit of a WWII airplane buff. As it turns out, the term "Angels One Five" means flying at 15,000 ft. The Americans were famous (well the Brits thought they were silly actually) for using all kinds of slang and terms while flying. As the stories go, the Brits could not get them to shut up while in the air..lol. The Brits used to say "why not just tell the Germans where we are"...
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