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05-07-2004, 08:10 PM
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| synthesizers in rock I have often held the belief that Pete Townshend and The Who were the first ROCK artists to use a synthesizer on a rock album with "Who's Next" in 1971. Is this true? I know other people were using the synthesizer prior to this but mainly as a noise box to produce sound effects. Pete Townshend was the first artist to use it as an actual instrument. Again is this true, or were there other mainstream groups using the synthesizer in the same way that Townshend was. By the way to here what I mean by saying "Using the synthesizer as an actual instrument" listen to "Baba O'Riley" or "Won't Get Fooled Again".  |
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05-07-2004, 10:19 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Technically, the sounds on Baba O' Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again weren't created by an actual "synthesizer". It is believed that they were created by a theatre organ. A synthesizer may have been involved in Won't Get Fooled again to produce the pulse wave to AM the organ, but that's it. Baba O' Riley was probably just created on a theatre organ with the Banjo sound on and the "repeat" function set at a high rate. I can do the same sound on my organ. And a synthesizer was used on the Beatles' Abbey Road in 1971, but not as extensively as the electronically produced sounds on Who's Next. |
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05-07-2004, 10:31 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Exactly. I remember being stumped when I read that Who's Next was the first record to feature synths 'seriously', and then remembering that Abbey Road has a number of Moog synth parts (recorded 1969). Indeed, Pete made the source sound by feeding his Lowrey home spinet organ through an EMS VCS-3 synth module, which is amazing and all, but technically isn't real 'use' of a synth (to whereas the parts on Abbey Road are). Last edited by Shane G. : 05-08-2004 at 11:03 AM. |
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05-07-2004, 10:57 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock What songs is the synthesizer used on Abbey Road? And wasnt FLoyd themselves using a primitive synthesizer in the Late 1960's? |
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05-08-2004, 01:04 AM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock I don't know about all that but Baba O'reilly and Won't Get Fooled Again are both kickass songs. |
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05-08-2004, 02:32 AM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Actually The Beatles released Abbey Road in 1969, not 1971. Incidentally I cannot remember any synthesizer in it.
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05-08-2004, 03:04 AM
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 Re: synthesizers in rock I don't know about you guys but using synths to complement or create a sound is sweet, but using it as a replacement for either drums or bass is something i really hate... and nowadays, it seems like almost all supposed to be rock bands use synths instead of drums... totally electronic and DULL. There is no more of that complete rock experience left in this place man. Everything is electronic... Sorry for the guns guys... but its just that i get really pissed of when synths are used as replacements to original instruments. Ady
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05-08-2004, 09:54 AM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Quote:
Off the top of my head I can recall a synth in Because, Here Comes the Sun, and Maxwell's Silver Hammer |
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05-08-2004, 11:01 AM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Man d_h speaks truth. Additionally, the Moog was used as a white-noise source for 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' (heard near the end), but this was purely for noise effect and not musical melody. And I always thought that the repeating sound in 'Baba O'Riley' was done by putting the organ's Banjo setting through the VCS-3's sequencer, which wouldn't be that hard to do. (Watch Rog in the Pompeii film, and also remember that the drums in 'On the Run' were fed into the VCS-3). |
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05-08-2004, 02:35 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock I didn't know the VCS-3 had a repeat setting for that, unless it's got sample and hold or something. And I completely forgot about the white noise after I Want You! I rarely ever get through the whole song since it's so monotonous. |
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05-08-2004, 07:26 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock Yeah, it's got a sequencer built-in, but I was wrong about Townshend's use of it. Here's a page I had looked at years ago but forgot all about until just now: http://members.madasafish.com/~r_rowley/page3.html So you're right, a synth was just used to modify the sound of the organ on Won't Get Fooled Again. |
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05-14-2004, 03:24 AM
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05-22-2004, 04:43 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock 'hoping i didn't miss this somewhere- but don't forget the 1st ELP album w/ "Lucky man" came out in '70. the VSC-3 patch floyd used on "run" was "run deep". pe a ce kirk/z e n p o o l
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05-22-2004, 08:06 PM
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| Re: synthesizers in rock The best use of a synthesizer EVER has to be "The Final Countdown" by Europe.  -Kidding as Always Joey |
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