Starting of High Hopes...

it is the same bell, and on the song keep talking they use the same intro they used with us and them.

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Just think about the lyrics, the two songs are strictly related.

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It's the same principle as the using of the wind and the 'ping' from Echoes on Hey You.

Can't see a connection between those two songs though

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That's due to the rather limited sound efects they have at EMI....or Columbia....or whatever. You get my point.

Nah, I don't think Pink Floyd would use the same sounds just because that's all that available. If they really wanted a sound, they could get it (just look at "Alan's Phycedellic Breakfast").

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its really not that uncommon for a band to use the same effects on several songs, especially if it is a really cool effect

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Ya, but an iron bell being rung a few times isn't that unique/rare.

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If that were really the case one could argue a connection between Fat Old Sun/High Hopes and Hells Bells by AC/DC.

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Fat Old Sun and High Hopes are closely related to each other, having very similar atmosphere.

On a related note: Roger Waters' What God Wants III begins with the ping from Echoes and some chords slightly resembling Welcome To The Machine, as you probably know.

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All three of those pings are different. Similar but different.

The bells are not. It's exactly the same bell (in Cambridge), hence the connection between the two songs.

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Exactly.

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I've got a Floyd concert, can't remember the date, but I know it's post-Waters era. They play Time, and after the line "The tolling of the iron bells," the bells to the beginning of High Hopes begins, and they transition nicely into High Hopes. Now that I think of it, I believe it's 8/29/94.

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