Waters Vs. Barrett

No question in my mind that Waters is way better. Syd's lyric-writing ability is incredibly overrated, especially compared to Waters who is one of the best songwriters in rock history.

Agreed.

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I could use one.

I agree with the mexican

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AGREED 100% except for the part that said people of todays generation might find syd's songs dumb. I am only 20 years old and i in no way think Syds songs are dumb...just unique, different, and original

I enjoy Roger's lyrics more, but I enjoy Syd's chords more (I like the way they flow).

But Gilmour owns both of em in the musical aspect.

Barrett was much more of an artist than Waters (or nnay of the other Floyd's), whether it was words or music he used them in a much more artisitic way than the post Syd Floyd were ever capabale of. Arnold Layne is one example:

Moonshine washing line
They suit him fine
On the wall hung a tall mirror
Distorted view , see through baby blue

Look at the way Barrett rhymes words. Its brilliant.

Now look at Astronomy Domine:

Lime and limpid green, a second scene
A fight between the blue you once knew
Floating down, the sound resounds
Around the icy waters underground

Barrett could use language in a way Waters was not capable of doing. Look at the third and forth line, and at the way Barrett rhymes 'down', 'sound' and 'resounds' before finishing off with 'underground'.

Waters tries the same sort of thing on Corporal Clegg , though he is not as successful as Barrett in his use of language:

Corporal Clegg had a wooden leg
He won it in the war in 1944
Corporal Clegg had a medal too
In orange, red, and blue
He found it in the zoo


Waters lyrics are good by the standard of rock lyrics, though poor by the standards of contemporary poetry. His lyrics are to the point, but a little bit pedestrain. He was not gifted in the way Syd Barrett was.

I wish my favorite lit major was around to analyze it... But I don't think we have anything more substantive than opinion here.

I have Syd's albums, and I would like to have heard more PF with his participation. Due primarily to his illness, that didn''t happen; but we sure as hell didn't get ripped off, either. Roger's version of PF was in every way as good as Syd's, but with stylistic differences and and one very major one, in that Roger was able to continue and Syd was not.

Point is, what happened to Syd was a tragedy, but what happened to PF as a result wasn't.

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More rhymes per line ain't a crime, but poetry it does not make.

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I agree 100% and I love The Pink Floyd With Syd.

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Interesting... When an example of Waters lyrics appears, it`s about war. He just wrote too much stuff about the war, like it was he`s only muse. Anyway, he`s lyrics are deeper than Barret`s.

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What about...

isolation
humanity
compassion
madness

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what do you teach your children about me?
what do you teach your little children about me?
pimp, thug, bling drug lord of the undergrounded kings
how can you be so sure i won't call down the rain?
what do you teach your little children about me?
you point your gun, wait, hide and run. i see it plain

also man's inhumanity to man...there are many things he wrote about but war is an obvious preoccupation. And rightfully so. One nice thing about the both of them is that it's nice to relax a little with some Barret music after getting all churned-up with Water's.

It is for me anyway.

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Does anyone remember that program on bee bee sea too? The one about Dark Side of the Moon ? If you do you will have heard Waters admitting that he thought his lyrics were of a "sixth form" standard, so even he is not all that impressed with his early work. He was much more admiring of Rick Wrights The Great Gig in the Sky track of that album.

And - also on bee bee sea too - if you seen that program about Syd Barrett, or even if you have just read interviews with Waters where he talks about Barrett, you will know that he was and is totally in awe of Barrett's genius.

You are correct sir! I have read various books (Bricks in the Wall, Saucerful of Secrets, etc.) and he has always admired syd's work and always wondered just what he could have accomplished in his life if it wasn't for the down-fall.

I believe we are comparing apples and oranges (no pun intended) here and this can go on forever. Safe to say both are very accomplished in there own right and are two completely different wrighters who just happened to be in the same band. And it worked wonderfuly?

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