New Generation of Listeners

[macjr14]

The other day I was visting some of my relatives and noticed that one of my cousins had a poster of DSOTM on his wall. I also noticed that he had collected a number of their albums. Considering that he is just entering high school I asked him how he had come upon Floyd. To my excitement he explained that he had heard Divison Bell and wanted top hear more and fell in love with Pipers and Meddle, not to mention The Wall and DSOTM. We sat down and talked about the music and listened to some of it for quite some time. It is really amazing to see their music is still able to affect people the way it affected me, even some 20+ years later. They will probably live on forever.

[Eugene]

Yeah, it think I'm of the younger hearers (18 years). My dad used to hear pink floyd in the '60 and '70. And oneday I borrowed The Wall and DSOTM and I was shocked how good and how hypnotizing it was. So borrowed the rest of the Records and bought myself all one Albums that my father only cot on Vinyl on CD. I just don't have 'More' and 'Pipers at the ...' but I'm going to buy them soon. Anyway, my father and all my unkels were pretty suprised that I start listening Pink Floyd and played it my guitar. But it's still great music and i'm SURE it WILL live forever!!

[Radiochair]

As a member of the younger generation, I'm not all that surprised that the music has lasted so long. Just listen to it and it is the type of music that is extremely good and will attract music-lovers of all ages. If it wasn't, you wouldn't have forums like this with people of many different ages (I think we are diferent ages) all communicating on one level - Floyd. Unfortunately most of the new music today that is popular doesn't seem like it has the devoted fans that bands in the past once did. But, the fact that many young people are wanting quick fixes of music, instead of something that will last a lifetime. The attention span of young uns today is very poor.

[Not Now John]

It is my belief that Floyd is ageless, after all I am 25 and love it yet, I know people in their 50s who love it and my youngest brother at 18, is starting to get into it. Few bands or musicians can reach across generations, such as Zepplin, Floyd, Bach, Mozart, Metallica (possibly, too early to tell).

[Bride of a Bull]

Hmmm...as a no longer VERY young man of 40 and having been a fan of the Floyd for just over two decades - fixxlevy has me on tenure of fandom - I don't know what it is about the, seemingly, talentless bunch of singing groups - I cannot call them bands since none seem to be able to play ANY musical instruments - enthralling the youth of today.

Perhaps it IS the short attention span of today's youth but I seem to remember that same fault plagued me and my contemporaries in our respective youths, so that can't be the whole reason. In most cases the music is just a re-hash of what has gone before; sometimes the cover versions differ not a bit from the original in structure, so my question is why not just listen to the original.

Maybe it's just that mediocrity has taken hold of the populace at large - rife in continental Europe - and only the more individual among us can break away from the SHEEP-like behaviour. Perhaps the current offerings are just plain crap. Then again, perhaps I'm just coming into my time as an "old fogey".

And like fixxlevy, I may be a PF purist who, when in a Las Vegas casino, almost ripped off his own ears at the sound of a very poor lounge act murdering "Money". I just cannot handle cheap imitations. Thank goodness this thread isn't concerned with whether the latest PF incarnation is truly, or not, PINK FLOYD!.

BTW, I spent almost the entire day yesterday singing Syd's "Long Gone" to myself much to the annoyance of my colleagues in the bank. Bleedin' music haters. No accounting for taste...or the lack thereof. :smile:

Floyd on!
Byron

[Charade I Am]

Floyd on Indeed.

I find it Ironic that to me and my friends (basically new generation), the only good music is OLD music. Incredible stuff like "The Four Seasons" and other concertos, and symphonies (i liked the comparison to Bach and Mozart), are all soo incredible. Jazz is also really nice, as is Progressive Rock, some Blues, and the occasional "Beatles" song.

But the crap they put out nowadays with most every song with the same "love this....love that...", with no meaning - it's not really art, it's just some fixated individuals who know a few kinky dance moves and electronically 'funk' up their voices, using other people's work and using cliched beats to make themselves popular to the masses.

If we're to relate this to 'Animal Farm' (which i just finished and will post a lenghty topic when i get a chance!), it seems that these new bands aren't worthy of being "pigs", "sheep" obviously represents the mindless - somewhat unartistic views of most American and Post-Westernized European/Asian children who just don't know how to 1. appreciate music and 2. find a deeper meaning in the music they listen to.

Why can't they find deeper meaning in the music they listen to? Because there is none.

The 'Pigs' are probably those at the heads of these record companies that know this stuff is trash (with the ever-popular 'frog' in the throat vocals that Matchbox 20 and other bands have adapted), but figure they may as well make a profit out if it.

I don't despise them for finding a sneaky way to make a profit - rather that they let this bad music seep into the minds of soo many.

Well then, what are we? We must be the representatives of "Benjamin" the old donkey who adapted and learned the true deception going on. I think i'm going too far with this, but why not!?

I think the thing that bugs me most about the majority of musicians now adays (besides that most can't sing, play, etc...) is that they don't have that devotion and passion to their music that so many of the 60's and 70's and even centuries ago, had.
You see them perform and they use all these neat computer effects and such, but there's no real feeling coming from them.

well, once again that's enough of my ramblings.

So Shine ON!
Floyd On!

Patrick
"Charade I Am"

[Not Now John]

Well, Charade I agree and I disagree. I believe that bands of today are the same as band's of yesterday. There are a select few who are incredible, for me these bands would be REM, Metallica, Rage Against The Machine. But the majority are simply ear-candy for the masses whose real job is not to sing anything of meaning but too push merchandise. And even the Beatles started out as a boy band, they just matured. So next time you blame a generation as a whole, remember that there were bands like ABBA, KC and The Sunshine Band, New Kids On the Block, etc. It's just that we forgot about them, thankfully, as we will BSB and NSYNC.

[Bride of a Bull]

NNJohn,

Oh! How could you have lumped the wondrous ABBA in with those other non-groups. And at least most of the people in KC, etc COULD actually play their instruments and both they and ABBA produced - okay it was bubble-gum but at least it was ORIGINAL bubble-gum - original pieces of music, some of which of ABBA's was quite sublime. (I fear I may have blown whatever credibility I may have garnered here up to now. D'OH!)

It's a sad reflection on our times when one must appreciate originality over quality rather than the endlessly rehashed offerings from boy/girl/IT-bands. By that I mean, even Hansen's "Mm-bop" was an original piece, and the lads CAN play their instruments. And of course I recognise that ALL music is derivative of earlier work all the way back to the cavemen "banging the rocks together, guys." :smile:

Stay cool, stay Floyd!
Byron

"I stood very still, by the windowsill..."

p.s. What a surprise: I had to edit this darned post as well.
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[fixxlevy]

There IS a fair whack of good, substantial music out there.

I won't mention Metallica as they seem to have become older than Pink Floyd, but bands like Sigur Ros(who are absolutely fantastic), Eels, 90's Air(Premier syptomes being a personal fave), Tricky, Massive Attack, Coldcut and Black Box Recorder all write music that eschews popular and commercial trend, IS proud of itself(in a non migraine inducing way) and doesn't make a mayfly like appearence in our consciousness before becoming obsolete.

You just have to look for it and pay attention to word of mouth, because it doesn't get played on daytime radio.


Incidentally, I believe that it is YOU , Bull, who has the edge as far as "tenure of fandom" goes.



Cheers,

Mark

[Bride of a Bull]

Really? Then who was it said they had been listening to, and a fan of Pink Floyd for over three decades.

I thought it was you, fixxlevy, but obviously I was mistaken.

Many apologies.

Floyd on!
Byron

"The larger they come, the bigger her hands 'til no-one understands...why for so long she'd been gone."

p.p.s. Damn, damn, damn!!! edit fever strikes again! D'OH!
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[_archer]

I agree with Charade I am that the contemporary mainstream pop 'music' is shallow and has NO Real Meaning or depth and is Garbage to the masses.

I personaly believe that when you'll ask someone 200 years from now abour Britany spears he'll say "Who's she? never heard of her!",
But if you'll ask them about Pink Floyd,Led zeppelin,or King Crimson(just a few examples)
they'll come on and say "Sure, they were major musicians/bands of the 20th century!".
The point is that shallow music is forgotten fast,while deep music stays for good.
Hopefully 200 years from now they'll be teaching at music schools about "Shine On you Crazy Diamond","Supper's Ready" & "Thick as a brick"(which the latter I think they already teach about).

[fixxlevy]

Sorry BOAB. I'm only 27.


Cheers anyway,

Mark

[Radiochair]

For my next comment, I'm going to be beaten up for, but here it goes.

Everybody on here is saying that new music of today sucks. In saying this, I am mainly referring to "boy bands" and the Britney Spears-type music. The fact is, that the reason this stuff is being done is that people like it. They do it because it is what is going to sell records. Maybe it is not the musicians who can't do anything "meaningful", but is the listeners that don't care that it is not meaningful. We say that Pink Floyd is real music, but that is because we enjoy it very much and it has become apart of our being. Maybe, the same thing happens to other people in another type of music.

Even Roger doesn't believe that other types of music is bad just because he doesn't like it. He has said that he once thought that people don't like good music, but has changed his thoughts on that now. Maybe, it is us that don't like good music.

Or maybe, no music is better then any other, it is just a matter of personal taste. Whatever is out there, anyone can take or leave.

There. Phew.

Tim

[Charade I Am]

Yes.

[Radiochair]

Thanks for the constructive criticism Pat.