Okay, what do you people think is GOOD and Bad rock?

Defining rock would have to be the hardest thing I've come across for a while. Being 16 my opinion is not as experienced as BoaB and the like but there is truth in it. Anything that is made and played purely for the sake of music has to be good. Like most things in life, you bring in commercialism and everything goes downhill. Not all new is necessaraly bad but music nowadays is made more for profit than for pleasure. I don't think I can define good rock in words you just know when you hear it.

I agree. (oh and ppl there is really no point in saying things to BoaB seeing as he will b away for a while!)
Rovk is rock, there are amny different types of rock and you can't say one is better than the other. And there certinaly are good guitarists around (speaking from personal experience of knowing a very good guitarist).

Anyway I don't think this is something you can discuss lightly!

cheers

yeah, i dont see anything similar between blind melon and nirvana

blind melon=acid trippin hippies
nirvana=heroin addicted "grunge" rockers

anyway, to me good rock is floyd, grateful dead, phish, string cheese, most jambands, zeppelin, and most classic rock. but thats only my opinion, i dont particularly like blink 182 or any of their clones, but someone else might so i dont go and say that that is BAD rock. let people listen to what they want to listen to and dont judge what kind of person they are by what they listen to, thats my philosophy

o and im 15

and there are some great guitarists around now, Trey Anastasio (phish), Warren Haynes (Gov't Mule), Brendan Bayliss (Umphrey's Mcgee), not to mention a great mandolin player, Michael Kang (String Cheese Incident)

if you want to hear good guitar playing, you need to know the right places to look (MTV and radio stations are NOT the place)

Yeah, what crap, like Led-Zeppelin, Cream, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience.

A Talking Head, isnt PF a 4 piece Guitar, Bass, Drum, keyboard, vocal etc group. What else do u want out of a rock band? And Guitarmangreg1, most of the best music ever written were done by druged out artist's or group, so please don't attack Nirvana. Let's not forget our dear friend Syd.

Everyone has their right to an opinion. Music is only good if it moves YOU, nothing else matters. Whether it be chart positions, awards, or anything else! In the end its all about whether YOU like it or not.

I agree, that's why i hate it when people critise others who they don't know. Just enjoy their talent.

as a musician, I'm pretty dissapointed with the notion that seems to be going around that it's not GOOD or COOL to be able to play your instrument. I was playing Comfortably Numb in my car and my brother (who's 17) began telling me how unnecessary and non-musical he thinks guitar solos are. I couldn't believe it. I think apart from singing, guitar solos can be some of the most emotional parts of songs. But then, I'm a child of the 80's. IMHO, bad music is any music that was not written through true conviction. No matter how silly or commercial, if the music is truly felt then I will accept it. If Dep Leppard were really into Pour Some Sugar On Me, then it's fine. I just get very uneasy when I start feeling as if I'm being sold a packaged commodity of image rather than music.

Amen brother. As long as you feel the artist means what they are preforming, then there's the magic. It doesn't matter if it's Floyd or a commercial top 40's band. You feel it, you'll know.

o, im not attacking nirvana, i love nirvana, they were my favorite band back in middle school, i own all their studio albums plus unplugged in NY and from the muddy banks of the wishkah. i was just trying to make a point that blind melon were hippies and they werent related to nirvana all that much besides they were around at the same time and Kurt and Shannon died around the same time.

Well, although I've only read some of these posts and may be restating some of them, I think that good music, in general, should essentially come from a persons own desires. Music shouldn't be written for other people. Once you get into the whoring of music and the business side of it, the music loses a lot. Factory "bands," if you will, like N*SYNC and Backstreet Boys, and even Matchbox 20, are just quick easy ways for record execs to make money. Now I'm not saying that these people might not have stuggled or even worked hard, but it's nothing to what many other poeple have gone through, either successful musicians like Floyd, or relatively unsuccessful musicians like say Paul Butterfield Blues Band.
When you cheapen music, you make it bad, no matter how many people like it. And although music, like many things, is based on personal preferance, there should be, and I insist there is, some underlying determining factor of what is good versus bad. The only problem is that I have no idea what that factor is. Anyways, I hope I'm not too long winded or confusing. Shine on you crazy diamonds!

Bride of a Bull --
I see your logic in the younger generation not liking what their parents do but it isnt always the case -
I am a big Nirvana fan more than i am a Pink Floyd fan and im sure my children will when i show them PF hate it and say im going to listen to Nirvana but thats my bread and butter soi would enjoy listening with them.


Mordern Music sucks with few exeptions Strokes, White Stripes etc.


Kurt Donald Cobain was murdered www.justiceforkurt.com

Indeed, every rule has its exception. Good to see you.

I've never heard of any Dire 'Straights'!