What does Waters have against Andrew Loyd-Webber?

[DaveEEE]

I'm curious to why Waters wrote the lyrics about Andrew Loyd-Webber( I assume he is talking about him) in the song "It's a Miracle" on Amused to death. What happened between them or what was said by who that caused Waters to write those lyrics. It's an awesome song and I would love to know the story behind that verse.
Thanks for the help

[stratman]

Apparently, Roger suspected Lloyd-Webber of stealing some of "Echoes" in the writing of "Phantom Of The Opera". Here is a more detailed explanation:

"What's the deal with Andrew Lloyd Webber?"

In general, (Roger) just doesn't like ALW's music, and doesn't mind saying so. But specifically, there's a section of Webber's _Phantom of the Opera_ that bears a marked similarity to a part of ``Echoes.'' The opening notes to the ``Overture'' of _Phantom_ (Track 2, Disc 1) are C# C B Bb A C#. This matches rather closely a section of ``Echoes,'' approximately 6:06 to 6:16. While Waters was less than pleased with this similarity, Echoesians have pointed out that such a chromatic pattern is fairly common; by no means a Floyd invention. However, the relevant dates make the charge of plagiarism at least possible, if not really likely -- Webber first used the riff in question on the film ``Gumshoe,'' released in December 1971. _Meddle_ was released on 11 November, 1971, with the live debut of ``Echoes'' having occurred on April 22.

In an interview about ATD, waters said the following:

"Andrew Lloyd Webber sickens me. He's in your face all the time and what he does is nonsense. It has no value. It is shallow, derivative rubbish, all of it, and it makes me very gloomy.[ (stratman)]. Actually, I've never been to one of his shows but having put that slightly savage joke on the record,(There's a lyric on Amused To Death which runs thus: "Lloyd Webber's awful stuff/Runs for years and years/An earthquake hits the theatre/But the operetta lingers/Then the piano lid comes down/And breaks his ****ing fingers.") I thought I'd better listen to some Andrew Lloyd Webber and I was staying in a rented house in America this summer and the people who owned the house had a whole bunch of his rubbish so I thought I'd listen to Phantom Of The Opera and I put the record on and I was slightly apprehensive. I thought, Christ, I hope this isn't good - or even mediocre. I was not disappointed. Phantom Of The Opera is absolutely ****ing horrible from start to finish."

[EvilPoet]

For those who might be interested here
is the 1992 Q magazine interview:

http://www.pinkfloydfan.net/t1438.html

Have a good one everyone.

EvilPoet

[Not Now John]

Ever see Evita, the movie? Some coincidental visuals between that movie and The Wall.

[EvilPoet]

Originally posted by Not Now John
Ever see Evita, the movie? Some coincidental
visuals between that movie and The Wall.

Could the fact that both films have the
same director have anything to do with
it?

Cya later,
EvilPoet
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Gershwin - Summertime

[Not Now John]

Yes, I meant to point that out, but forgot to put it in my post.

[EvilPoet]

Originally posted by Not Now John
Yes, I meant to point that out, but forgot to put it in my post.

No prob.

Don't ya hate when that happens?

Have a good one.
Cya later, EvilPoet
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DarkUFO - Classica

[GeraldTheMouse]

Originally posted by stratman
It is shallow, derivative rubbish, all of it, and it makes me very gloomy.

Oh, no! Roger, gloomy?!

[Not Now John]

Oh no, something by ALW, that is shallow?

[GeraldTheMouse]

They should collaborate on something.

[stratman]

They could call themselves Pink Lloyd. I'd really like to see Roger do something gloomy. It'd probably end up in a catfight, though.

[GeraldTheMouse]

There were so many bad jokes in that post, I don't know where to begin.

[Botley]

LOL pink lloyd

I like that so much, I'm going to have to steal it.

[- Lucifer Sam -]

Freddie Mercury and John Lennon are NOT better then Roger.

Beatles music sickens me.

[Duke7771]

Originally posted by - Lucifer Sam -
Freddie Mercury and John Lennon are NOT better then Roger.

they are at one level .
if you will take Freddie's voice and other music skills + Lennon's guitar and voice + Waters lyrics , ideas ,;;;;; oh man , that will be a superb trio