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View Poll Results: Is Tom Cruise a drip?
Yes....lets drown him! 30 85.71%
No.....he's a celebrity....he deserves our respect! 5 14.29%
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Old 06-25-2005, 07:54 AM
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Re: Tom Cruise. A bit of a drip?

This has all gotten very serious. The question was....oh bugger ...I've forgotten.. whose Ron Hubbard anyway...is it any relation of

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believe me, i don't support scientology by any means (or any organized religion for that matter), but it makes me laugh when religous people criticise other religions, etc.


Scientology is not a religion. When I hear a skunk like Trovalta saying on national television that he can heal people with his hands (positive energy flow crap he farted out of his mouth on a Barbara Walters special) it makes me worry about the influence that Scientology has over the ignorant and weak-minded.

Scientology is a pyramid scheme. Hubbard simply got around the leagalities by making it a religon. And to answer the critics who say it is a cult, he put it in the public eye by recruiting celebrities thereby hoping iot would be more acceptable.

Without this being an endorsement of Tom Cruise or Scientology, I can say that I finally did view the Matt Lauer bit and Tommy did have a point, but I highly doubt he came to that conclusion on his own.

Also, it makes me laugh when people who have no real understanding of theology or the role of religion on the development of societies and cultures find it humurous that people who do know can have an educated discussion on the subject.
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Scientology is not a religion. When I hear a skunk like Trovalta saying on national television that he can heal people with his hands (positive energy flow crap he farted out of his mouth on a Barbara Walters special) it makes me worry about the influence that Scientology has over the ignorant and weak-minded.


He was good in Top Gun though.
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He was good in Top Gun though.


..no he wasn't...he minced around like a bloody pansy.
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Re: Tom Cruise. A bit of a drip?

You'd think Travolta would have learned the error of his ways after Battlefield Earth tanked.
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Re: Tom Cruise. A bit of a drip?

I never thought of Tom Cruise as a very good actor and none of his movies ever really blew me away.
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Top Gun was complete trash. Aside from the outstanding aerial footage, they got not one detail right about it. Charlie Sheen did a much better job in Hot Shots.

On the other hand, the scene in Risky Business when he gets the bill to have his father's 928 repaired will stay with me forever.

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..no he wasn't...he minced around like a bloody pansy.

Come on what about that bit.... you know the one with the plane in it and... ummm Ok so I've never seen it but I hear it's very good....
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Scientology is not a religion. When I hear a skunk like Trovalta saying on national television that he can heal people with his hands (positive energy flow crap he farted out of his mouth on a Barbara Walters special) it makes me worry about the influence that Scientology has over the ignorant and weak-minded.

Scientology is a pyramid scheme. Hubbard simply got around the leagalities by making it a religon. And to answer the critics who say it is a cult, he put it in the public eye by recruiting celebrities thereby hoping iot would be more acceptable.

Without this being an endorsement of Tom Cruise or Scientology, I can say that I finally did view the Matt Lauer bit and Tommy did have a point, but I highly doubt he came to that conclusion on his own.

Also, it makes me laugh when people who have no real understanding of theology or the role of religion on the development of societies and cultures find it humurous that people who do know can have an educated discussion on the subject.
Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or SYSTEM OF BELIEFS held to with ardor and faith
- re·li·gionless adjective

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Main Entry: Scientology
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Definition: a controversial BELIEF SYSTEM developed by L. Ron Hubbard, based on a person being an immortal spiritual being whose survival depends on him/herself and his/her attainment of brotherhood with others and the universe
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But "belief" implies faith. Scientology is not based on faith of any kind. According to Hubbard himself it is "built on definite axioms: statements of natural laws on the order of those of the physical sciences". This denies any room for faith, yet disqualifies it from the realm of science. It is pseudoscience at best, and a malicious brainwashing scheme at worst.
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'The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion.' -- L. Ron Hubbard.
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But "belief" implies faith. Scientology is not based on faith of any kind. According to Hubbard himself it is "built on definite axioms: statements of natural laws on the order of those of the physical sciences". This denies any room for faith, yet disqualifies it from the realm of science. It is pseudoscience at best, and a malicious brainwashing scheme at worst.
most likely the latter, the more i look at it the more you all seem to be right, after all there is even a section on the website "what scientology can do for you" "The Scientology religion is about the individual man or woman, its goal is to bring an individual to a sufficient understanding of himself and his life and free him to make improvements where he finds them necessary and in the ways he sees fit."
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Re: Tom Cruise. A bit of a drip?

just saw the scene. its hilarious! tom goes through a whole bunch of emotions: first he laughs, next he gets a little anger saying"why'd you do that?", then he goes into his "jerk" fiasco. and he is pressing charges for that? what has this world come to....
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Just a recap - he isn't pressing any charges, and he isn't suing anybody.
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Re: Tom Cruise. A bit of a drip?

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Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n
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Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY
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it seems to apply to at least some of those

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Definition: a controversial BELIEF SYSTEM developed by L. Ron Hubbard, based on a person being an immortal spiritual being whose survival depends on him/herself and his/her attainment of brotherhood with others and the universe
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That is very broad of you--in that case my belief in gravity and air should qualify as a religion.
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