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Old 03-21-2002, 07:52 PM
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It could be both, and more yet. You may both be correct.

"15:1 - The swastika is a very old ideogram. The first such signs preserved to our days were found in the Euphrates-Tigris valley, and in some areas of the Indus valley. They seem to be more than 3,000 years old... Yet it was not until around the year 1000 B.C. that the swastika became a commonly used sign, first maybe in ancient Troy in the north west of today's Turkey...

The swastika was used well before the birth of Christ in China, India, Japan, and Southern Europe. Whether it was also used that early in the Americas, however, is not known. There are no swastika-like signs on the oldest rock carvings there. Neither did the Mayans, the Incas, and the Aztecs use it. However, many of the Indian tribes in the southern parts of North America seem to have begun using the sign after the arrival of the first Spanish colonists..."

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Old 03-21-2002, 09:04 PM
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I remember being very sad when I saw the sign in its original use--as a decoration, maybe even a good-luck symbol. I was very sad that its meaning was stripped away in most of society, that my first thought at seeing this traditional symbol was of all the pain of the Second World War. The people of India who did this form of dance and used it centuries (or more?) before Hitler certainly did not intend it this way.

There is a power in symbols that we can hardly get our minds around...
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Old 03-22-2002, 05:18 AM
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I think its a symbol from India and it rotates the other way to the Nazi swastika as a symbol of never-ending life. I think its related to their cycle of reincarnation and has good connotations over there.

Hitler definitely misinterpreted it like he did the Nordic runes though. I don't think he ever paid attention to the symbolism of these things properly.
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Old 03-22-2002, 08:55 AM
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That or he ENJOYED corrupting things...? (Which wouldn't surprise me at all...)

BTW, which Nordic runes?
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Me thinks Byron left out would could be Hitler's true intention of the swatstika, representing the swinging hammer of Thor. This is where most scholars today feel that Hitler first got the idea.
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Old 03-22-2002, 06:05 PM
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NNJ, I left out TONS of stuff, and that's only a small part of what is all under just Heading 15.1.

I just extracted the bits I thought were relevant. See the URL.
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