Roger is an a**hole

DM had some good ones back in the day but now they've just faded.

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I agree with you and I like Lou Reed's solo works but I just can' t get into the VU.

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There are more people who have that problem. I can see why, Lou Reed solo is far superior.

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Indeed. "Berlin" is one of the saddest records I have ever listened to (it can even get painful, specially when you listen to "The Kids"), "Coney Island Baby" is a very sweet and moving song, "NYC Man" is very groovy... I even like the VU tracks when Lou Reed plays them, like White Light / White Heat in the live album "Rock'n'Roll Animal" (great bass and slide guitar work!!)

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Berlin is one of the most moving records ever created. The way it grabs you by the balls alone is pure genius.

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It's a crime that the swift should be held back by the slow, and it's criminal that nothing is going to rectify it.

Every member of the band is equally great! Thats why the best songs on the wall are the ones in which Gilmour has contributed.

Yes, Roger was a prick at the time, but hes settled down since and as someone said, this was nearly 30 years ago, no matter how much of a prick he was hes still a legend!!!

Someone said Gilmours an asshole now, how the **** do u figure that one out? He just gets up and gets on with it, gives to charity etc, he comes across as a very decent guy to me. Either way, whether you like him or you dont, u cannot deny that the wall is one of the classic rock albums

Don't see how that has anything to do with Dave being the nice guy or the prick.

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hmm, I heard that all the other artists take away from it, havent heard or seen all of it though

Well, Dave seems cool at times, I mean he gives tons to charity and such... But his personality... I've been reading a few interviews of him lately, and he acts too smug... Sure, he's a good guitarist, but far from being the best, but he acts as if he is. Also, I wouldn't go promoting myself as "The Guitar and Voice of Pink Floyd", because he didn't do everything. And half the stuff he didn't write post-DSOTM. Half the Floyd fans nowadays have never heard any of the albums before DSOTM (Except maybe Meddle.) So really, I find that promoting yourself like that comes off as a bit smug, to me, at least.

But, also, Roger did come off as quite of an asshole back then in The Wall-Final Cut era, but he looks as if he's pretty well off it. I mean, did you see his face when the reunited Floyd played the Live 8 show? He had the biggest smile on! So I don't know, maybe Roger is coming off better, personality wise. As far as the music goes, I prefer Roger's music more... His is more rocky, and has more of a "take that" attitude. Gilmour is a lot more poppish, but shows more musicianship. Also, he seems to ask his wife for help with making the lyrics/music more than the actual bandmates themselves. The 1987 and post Floyd seem just like more Gilmour solo albums.

about roger being an as*hole, i dunno, i havent yet the pleasure to meet him. but he is indeed the responsible for the wall, that could be atn almos solo album, but is still really great, its brilliant, he was also the great responsible for animals, and that other album i dont like so much. but he's indeed a genius if i may say. a mastermind. and although youre mad about his selfishness, well things happened like that and we can change the past, so enjoy the wall (and maybe we could have got an album entirely by dave if not by rogy)

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Utter Bull$hit, find me one interview where Gilmour claims or gives the impression hes the best guitarist about (and as far as him being far from it, some of us here would agree that he is the best guitarist about).

Hes always come across as shy to me, in most of the interviews ive read he seems quite reluctant to take praise, so I dont know where you're getting that from.

As far as the "Voice and guitar of Pink floyd" goes, most people probably know pink floyd for Dark Side of the Moon, and he did sing nearly everything on that album so I dont see a problem with it, its not like hes saying "hey, im the only guy who sang for pink floyd".

Do you not think its arrogant of Waters to call himself "the creative genius of Pink floyd", you could interpret that as him saying that he was the most important member of the band. I wouldnt though, in my opinion its ok for him say this because are far as ideas for all the albums were concerned, he was the most creative. Just like i think its ok for gilmour to say "the voice and guitar of pink floyd" because he IS the pink floyd guitarist, and he has been on vocals for so many of the songs.

Waters was silly and painfully naive in assuming when he had made up his up to leave Pink Floyd that the other three wouldnt have the inclination to continue without him. Obviously his ego had become inflated to the point that in his mind he was Pink Floyd. So it came a huge shock to him that it wasnt all going finish tidily with good timing and no loose ends, when in fact he had been outmanouvered into giving the others exactly what they wanted! i.e. him out! and them carrying on to a promising future without having to suffocate under the Waters total domination as the only one who had total control and absoloutely the last word in all matters concerning the band. Understandably he felt beside himself with rage not to mention total humilation to have been played so easily for a fool to find himself standing on the outside looking in! I think its taken rather a long time for him to come to terms and accept it. So at the time your probably right when he gazed into a mirror he would have seen an Areshole gazing back.

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