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Old 11-08-2005, 10:05 PM
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leonardo da vinci last supper

I dont know if I am the only one who realized this but in leonardo da vincis last supper there is a hand with a knife in it and I looked at all the remakes it shows that the man in the blue jacket is holding it but if you look in the real one the hand dosent mach the way the man in the blue jackets arm gose. So dose anyone think other wize?
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

you've seen the real one? and this is a picture of the "real" one i suppose?
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:14 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

no but i have the books and all of thum have that the ones that are clean and has no scraches is the ones I consiter fake
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:20 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Actually, that looks a bit reworked, compared to here.

But there's nothing sinister about the knife, really. That's what people ate with in those days. Forks weren't common until the 16th century.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

i know its not bad but the thing I keep woundering is whos hand it is and it cant be the guy with the blue jacket cuse the hand is twisted and it would be very uncomfortable.
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:39 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

The hand has to belong to the guy in blue. Yes, it is at an awkward angle, and if this were a photograph, I'd be worried. However, since it's just a picture, I think we can
chalk it up to DiVinci screwing up his perspective.

Congrats, littlerocker, at 11 you're already an art critic.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:49 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

The Dan Brown code answers
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:46 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Yeah, his hand is upside-down and backwards, but it's not an impossible position.

Check out this clearer photo of the restored version.

Read the article Vera linked to... the "real" one has been variously desecrated by various people over the centuries, so who's to say what it actually looked like in the first place? Given that Leonardo took such GREAT pains to perfect the composition and perspective of all his works, I'd be more inclined to believe that the above link is closer to what he intended than the "original" state the work was in that DT linked to (before the recent restoration ended in 1999).

However, there are those who would disagree.

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Old 11-09-2005, 06:07 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

I think what first appears to be Peter's right elbow is, in fact, not, but the rear of his garment. For his hand to be in that position, his right elbow would have to be turned forward, not rearward.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Actually, to me it looks like a normal hand position. Just put your hand near your hip and turn it upwards, just as if you had it at your hip. It doesn't look odd to me at all.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

That's what I'm saying too. The back of his wrist is against his hip.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Right, I understand.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:49 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Quote:
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I'm not saying it's some kind of conspiracy, but it looks photoshoped to me.


The only way of knowing whose hand is it, or why is it in such an angle would be asking Leonardo himself, but, since there is a little life and death issues here, my advice is to leave it alone and do something creative with the time you'll save

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:00 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

After a long search
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:50 PM
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Re: leonardo da vinci last supper

Oh my mistake
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