Roger, Nick and Rick

Watered · #16 02-08-2006, 09:35 AM

And (in addition to what Jeffaz02t has perfectly expressed) Rick Wright's presence on TDB is one of the factors that makes this record, IMO, a much better one than AMLoR. Not only it is better, it is more Floydian. In fact, it almost carries on from where WYWH left.

Jeffaz02t · #17 02-08-2006, 10:02 AM

I still want to know how you all would feel if Roger, Rick and Nick decided to do something without Dave. How would you react?

Watered · #18 02-08-2006, 10:09 AM

Well, I said it in another thread but, would there be any difference between this association and a Roger solo album?

Jeffaz02t · #19 02-08-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Watered

Well, I said it in another thread but, would there be any difference between this association and a Roger solo album?

It very well would be, but couldn't one make the same argument for AMLOR and TDB which I value as legit Floyd releases, not BDG solo material.

Watered · #20 02-08-2006, 10:20 AM

For me AMLoR is very similar to "About Face", but in TDB there is some input from Rick. The relationship between Dave and Rick was good but, would there be any input from Rick in a Floyd record with Roger Waters? If I were Rick I wouldn't even imagine of going through the same situation that he lived by the end of the 70's again.

Driven · #21 02-08-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffaz02t

I still want to know how you all would feel if Roger, Rick and Nick decided to do something without Dave. How would you react?

Well, casting aside all opinions of how likely that might be (the phrase "buckley's and none" springs to mind), I'd be just as happy to go and see a Gilmour-less Floyd as I was going to see the Roger Waters solo gig...I'm sure it would be a brilliant show.

Prior to the Euro-millions lottery last week, it was claimed that there was more chance of Elvis crashing a UFO into the Loch Ness monster than there was of winning the Euro-millions.

Same applies here methinks!

terrapin893 · #22 02-08-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffaz02t

On Wish you Were Here, have you not heard Shine On You Crazy Diamond? Welcome to the Machine? Havev a Cigar? You are saying that Rick is not heard? I can hear him pretty well. He sounds pretty original and great to me.

On Animals, the Floyd's style changed a lot from DSOTM, and WYWH. They were heavier than before, and more aggressive. Their style did not lend itself to keyboards up front in the mix. He did his job and played his role. That is what makes the Floyd so great, is that everybody played only what is needed, and does not try to show off. Nick's drum style is the same way, sparse, not fancy. He lets the music breathe.

As far as Snowy being better than Dave... I honestly cannot even address such a claim. It is total crap in my opinion... It is not worth getting into a debate about. I think you will find yourself outnumbered on this opinion. But- I respect your right to hold this opinion even though I think it is total BS. Also, you are judging them based on ATTITUDE?? Personality means nothing to me if a person can just flat out PLAY GUITAR. This is not Pop Idol or American Idol... We are talking Pink Floyd here.... Let the music do the talking, not personality....

As far as Rick on the Wall.... He was obviously having many personal conflicts with Roger at the time. That surely has to be factored into the equation. Plus, I think that the Wall turned out just fine, even though Rick may not have contributed all that much.

The Division Bell reaks of Rick... He is all over it. He is a brilliant player, and deserves respect. His style virtually makes Floyd as great as it is.

We must agree to disagree I guess, I dont see anything great on the boards in WYWH, but I listen to alot of Dead too and when I am in a Dead phase it tends to influence how I think of other music. The Deads keyboardists were always up front and loud and clear. As to the Division Bell and Rick, I agree and I still think that Wearing the Inside Out is possibly the best song of that era (post Waters Floyd)
As to the Snowy/Gilmour thing I understand how good Gilmour is I say he is in the top five best guitarists in the world, Snowy isnt on that list. Thats where attitude comes in, Gilmour's general attitude is enough to piss me off. Even with the Live8 thing, he had a big attitude about that too, ask Geldof. It makes it harder to relate to him.

and to any wanker pointing out that the floyd arent going to tour again and to get over it . . . . . no shiit sherlock, want a crumpet? it is the way Gilmour goes about talking about it, with his holier than thou attitude

Dark Guitarist · #23 02-08-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Watered

The relationship between Dave and Rick was good but, would there be any input from Rick in a Floyd record with Roger Waters?

Gilmour recently said that he can't see them touring together because Roger has been making music authoritatively for the last 30 years or so, and he would not be able to work with the band in a "democratic" way. Plus I think Rick would be very hesitant to work with Roger again considering Roger had Rick kicked out of the band.

Driven · #24 02-09-2006, 04:18 AM

Pink Floyd aren't going to tour again.

Get over it.

Where's my crumpet?

I'll just duck out for a wank.

Bride of a Bull · #25 02-09-2006, 09:12 AM

No, Pink Floyd are not likely to tour again with David Gilmour.

Get over it. I don't like crumpets. May I have a baguette instead?

When and whether I wank is of no concern to anyone but me and Little (not so Little) BoaB.

Driven · #26 02-09-2006, 09:29 AM

Botley · #27 02-09-2006, 02:39 PM

I can definitely see Nick playing with Roger again, but not as a full band member — just for an occasional friendly one-off. I'm sure Richard Wright is quite definitely not high on Roger's list of people with whom he'd most like to work; Dave might be, but Dave wouldn't want to do it. So, there you have it, no more Pink Floyd.

However, on the off-chance they did do something together I'd buy it in an instant.

Bride of a Bull · #28 02-09-2006, 07:43 PM

Who's to say what reconciliation might evolve between the "new" Roger and Richard. They have, or should have all got over all the bad blood of the past, so why not Rick? What the hell else is he up to?

GTMASTER · #29 02-09-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bride of a Bull

Who's to say what reconciliation might evolve between the "new" Roger and Richard. They have, or should have all got over all the bad blood of the past, so why not Rick? What the hell else is he up to?

It could be a case of "forgiven but not forgotten" if you know what i mean.

terrapin893 · #30 02-09-2006, 10:07 PM

oh well, cant wait for both their solos then. just listened to pros and cons for the first time in a couple of years and it impresses me every time. gotta say I do miss big dave on that album though. he could have made it so much greater

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