In the Flesh DVD Jon Carin

Actually I was a LITTLE wrong, the EXACT quote was:

'Whether it's as good or to as many people's taste is besides
the point. If they don't like it as much, they don't have to buy it.
But no-one can tell me to stop doing it. I do my very, very best to
make it as well as I can, to make the records and put on a show.
I still fail to see why morally I should be persuaded to give up
something I've given most of my adult life to, just 'cause one guy
doesn't feel like doing it any more.'

Rock Compact Disk Mag - 1992

But that still expresses the sentiment I was driving at...thank you for the quote!

so why didn't a Lennon-less Beatles go on they would have had 3/4 of the original lineup. And don't forget it was Waters who brought Gilmour in to take over for Syd. It's an endless debate so I'm not going on with it but I like Roger's solo work. You have to look beyond the music. Roger is a storyteller and if you would not be biased of the music or the sound of his voice then you would see what I am talking about. Gilmour, on the other hand, is a pretty good composer.And it's not 3/4 of the original lineup if there are 6-10 session musicians in on every album.

Depends what you get from the Floyd I guess. If you listen for the lyrics, you'll be in the camp that says "Gilmour's Floyd is fake". If you listen for the guitar solos and the atmospheric music...you might be more inclined to defend (or even prefer) Gilmour's Floyd.

For my part I have no problem with Gilmour continuing under the Floyd banner. Who cares if Waters invited him in 30 years ago...he still co-wrote their best material. Who cares if there are session musicians there...should Waters' solo albums be called something else because HE has session musicians? Of course not. And I enjoy Waters' solo stuff too.

I just get real pissed off with people saying Gilmour's there for more money. He doesn't need any more...he giving the stuff away. Is he doing it for more RECOGNITION than he would get with a solo album...yes...but why not, he helped to build the name, so why shouldn't he continue to use it.

And don't forget there are two more people who have an input in what happens, and who help to make the music what it is.

Of course :smile:

Okay...so now we're counting the session musicians as members of the band? Man, you are whacked.

Mr. Mason and Mr. Wright are members of the band...they are the two other musicians.

BTW, the Beatles broke up over 10 years before Lennon was shot. His death ahd nothing to do with the split, it was an amicable breakup by all four members.

I've read a lot of opinions on the forum of the six months i've been on here. But I've never read anything as true as the topic I just read from Baremynakedfeelings. You nailed that one, sir.

PerfectLusk? Lame solo albums? Have you ever heard of something called About Face? I'd rather be stranded on an island with Ummagumma!

Well thank you very much for the compliment I'm sorry perfect doesn't see my statement as an opinion. Perfect sees it more as an insult to Gilmour who I personally enjoy. I am just an upset Floydian who wants to see the guys together one more time. It's been so many years and you think with age they would let it all go away. What if Syd asked Roger to perform a show with him do you think Rog would do it? Do you think Gilmour and co. would? Oh, and perfect Gilmour and Waters were great but they were not the greatest musical partnership ever that statement is one I see as totally ignorant in regards to Lennon/McCartney or maybe even Plant/Page. But that is your opinion and I will have to respect it

Got a little black book with my poems in
Got a bag with a toothbrush and a comb in
Got a grand piano to prop up my mortal remains(geared towards Rick)

99% agree with BareMyNakedFeelings.

for the people keen on using the term 3/4:
imagine Mr. David Gilmour has left the band for any reason. still 3/4 band there, right? what about Pink Floyd then?
the point is Pink Floyd was Gilmour,Mason,Waters,Wright. (alphabetical order ) take ANY of them and it's changed. there's no question about it. call it anything but Pink Floyd.

"stop Dave.. my mind is going... there is no question about it.."

Pink Floyd has ALWAYS changed.

Piper sounds nothing like Wish you Were Here, which sounds nothing like The Final Cut, which sounds nothing like Division Bell. The band HAS NOT always been Gilmour, Mason, Waters, Wright. Animals was Gilmour/ Waters, The Wall was mainly Waters, The final Cut was ONLY Waters, Momentary Lapse was mainly Gilmour, Division Bell was Gilmour/Wright, Piper didn't even have Gilmour, the first couple of albums after Barrett left Gilmour didn't have a great input.


In summary...Pink Floyd and the people/person who influenced it has constantly changed since it began. You might think the BEST Pink Floyd was this or that, but that doesn't mean the stuff you don't like (AMLOR/DB) is not Pink Floyd.

we are all CHANGING ALL THE TIME that wasn't the kidna change I was trying to say.

are we talkin about a group who never could make an album with all members contributing? with a few exceptions.

still waiting for a response to "gilmour left the band" scenario.
David Gilmour; GOD for some people and GREEDY for others people, whatever he is, how do you like this CHANGE?
Changes with what price?
are all changes OKAY?

"i know i'd laugh at what i'm saying now. i'll try to improve in future."

Someone posted some lines to the effect of " the Beatles split was an amicable decision between the 4 of them". Well let me say you couldn't be farthest from the truth! First of all they weren't really amicable anymore, since about early '68 and even before in some ways; secondly, it wasn't a group decision, but it was sir Paul McCartney instead that upon the release of his first solo album in 1970 announced he was leaving the band. The other 3 then, alredy enough pissed off on their own, just broke up and each one went his own way. A few years later they gradually became friends again, even John and Paul, but they never planned to re-unite and then some Mark Chapman decided to make it simply impossible, very sadly.