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Old 04-16-2008, 08:02 AM
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Re: Now You Can Take His Guns

Does Micheal Moore even realise that back in the day Heston was actually a leftist?? Did everything from picketing segragated resteraunts, fan of Martin Luther King and President Kennedy, supported the pro gun control act of 1968 and opposed Vietnam?

I know by the 80s he changed his alliences when he got older but at least he did some things when he was younger that Micheal would actually be proud of, unlike alot of Conservative Republicans who were that way from the start.
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Does Micheal Moore even realise that back in the day Heston was actually a leftist?? Did everything from picketing segragated resteraunts, fan of Martin Luther King and President Kennedy, supported the pro gun control act of 1968 and opposed Vietnam?

I know by the 80s he changed his alliences when he got older but at least he did some things when he was younger that Micheal would actually be proud of, unlike alot of Conservative Republicans who were that way from the start.

I'm no fan of Moore, but what anyone used to be doesn't really impact what they are now that you're criticizing them— Hitler used to be an artist, but we don't have to mention it every time we say 'He shouldn't have killed all those Jews.'
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I dunno, he was a pretty bad artist.
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He was, too. So maybe it's understandable.
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Sad day to loose Heston...

Instead of Pizza, maybe Mr. Moore would prefer Soylent Green.


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I'm no fan of Moore, but what anyone used to be doesn't really impact what they are now that you're criticizing them— Hitler used to be an artist, but we don't have to mention it every time we say 'He shouldn't have killed all those Jews.'

He could have challenged him on this level when "conversing" with him, asking him about this and why did he change instead of just annoying the **** out of him...
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Re: Now You Can Take His Guns

It's also quite possible that Heston didn't change, but that the middle range of American politics shifted to the left. Supporting Dr. King in the 1960s and being anti-gun control in the 1980s doesn't necessarily mean one has changed one's mind. The fact that these two things are seen as opposites or antithetical seems suspect.

In other words, Maybe Heston was a liberal in the 60s and a conservative in the 80s, but that's because those are relative terms: maybe all the status-quo-changing that he wanted actually did take place, and then he was satisfied and thought people who continued to be liberal were demanding things he never would have wanted.
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I, as an avowed conservative, never had any problem with Dr. Kings message of "being judged by the content of one's character, not by the color of one's skin". That only makes sense. Obviously Heston felt the same.

I admit I was suspicious of Dr. King back then only because of his reported communist ties.
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Exactly. This sort of 'all liberals believe x, all conservatives believe y, anyone who believes x is liberal, anyone who believes y is conservative' thinking is ludicrously unrealistic. If someone was opposed to the war in Vietnam, is that person obligated to be opposed to the war in Iraq? Or is it simply that that is true for 100% of people?
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Re: Now You Can Take His Guns

I wonder what Mr. NRA would say about Supreme Court's recent ruling about handguns in Washington DC...most political pundits are scaling the fence between the Constitution's Right to Bear Arms and the need to get illegal hand guns off the streets...
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